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paiger81

06-30-2005, 08:32 PM

OK, just got back from seeing it. Once you get the past the whole "Tom Cruise pretending to be Joe Schmo", the movie really kicks ass!!

Even though the alien tentacle kind of reminded me of the big eyeball from "Flight of the Navigator"(if anybody remembers that)

winneythepooh7

06-30-2005, 08:51 PM

I wanted to see this until Tom Cruise started acting like such an ass.

natbumpo

06-30-2005, 08:56 PM

I wanted to see this until Tom Cruise started acting like such an ass.

I used to love Tom Cruise (in the most hetero sexual way possible :green: ), but I can't stand him now. After the whole psychology thing-y, he is a prick.

Deadend

06-30-2005, 10:20 PM

so what's the psychology thingy?

cornflakegirl

06-30-2005, 10:33 PM

when he was on the today show, or some am tv program, tom cruise went on & on about how psychiatry is a pseudo- science & pills are evil. people need to take vitamins & exercise to get over depression, especially brooke shields who had postpartum depression & almost killed herself. he said she should have taken vitamins instead. he was really scary & very aggressive & persistent that he know everything, matt laurer didn't & that psychiatry is bs. just another recent tom cruise occurence. i suppose i could just be telling you this over im. :rolleyes:

Deadend

06-30-2005, 10:40 PM

no, it's good that everybody gets to know.

well it doesn't surprise me that it's finally all gone to his head

I never liked him anyways

jcm12

07-01-2005, 01:42 AM

I figured he went nuts from being a multi-millionaire Idol

midtwenty

07-01-2005, 10:22 AM

I've never particularly thought that Tom Cruise was all that great, although I did like him in "Magnolia." Then again, his character in that movie was bat-shit crazy so I guess it wasn't much of a stretch for him.

Btw Paige, I loved Flight of the Navigator. :) I watched part of it just the other day. :)

Kitty

07-01-2005, 10:29 AM

I saw it last night and I didn't really think it was that great. There were a lot of plot holes, and things that made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The ending was also way too corny and hollywood.

paiger81

07-01-2005, 10:41 AM

Yeah, the ending was a bit like "Um...could we explain some things" but, if you ever saw the old one, it kind of ends like that too. So it sticks to the original to an extent, which is why I liked it. I hate it when remakes veer to far off of the originals

PLUS, did you get the whole 9/11 wierd feeling when they were heading to the brigde. I was a little freaked out when I saw that, chest tightened up a bit....that's never happened to me at a movie before......

Kitty

07-01-2005, 10:42 AM

paiger81

07-01-2005, 10:44 AM

I think they were going for humor, I mean, you have to admit anytime something destructive happens now, the first thing you hear about is "Terrorist Link??"

My favorite was when Tom's like "I don't think this came from Terrorists" and the son is like "So it came from Europe!!!??" :lol:

Kitty

07-01-2005, 10:46 AM

I think they were going for humor, I mean, you have to admit anytime something destructive happens now, the first thing you hear about is "Terrorist Link??"

Yeah, but thats definitely a subtle psychological message.

coll214

07-01-2005, 10:58 AM

I went and saw it last night, I thought it was good. I was nervous and jumpy, wondering what was going to happen throughout the entire thing, I haven't yet seen the original which i may have to now rent. but I thought it was funny when we were leaving some women didn't 'get' the ending so we had to explain it to them. :googly:

blueyes

07-01-2005, 01:28 PM

Flight of the Navigator!? I LOVED that movie when I was a kid!!

I don't think I'm going to go see it, mostly b/c Tom Cruise irritates me - long before this most recent media blitz and Katie Holmes fiasco (aside - I did like the Batman movie, even if I did get suckered into seeing it). He just strikes me as being a cocky, arrogant weenie.

I'd be happier if I knew Cruise got eaten by the Flight of the Navigator thing. And if I didn't end up feeling vaguely 9/11 panicky...I had heard (vaguely) that there were some terrorist/9/11 references and wasn't excited about that. Turns out that the previous two releases of War of the Worlds (radio and the first movie) have been during times of war in the US. The first was WWI and the second was during the Cold War (I think - I might have that date wrong).

SweetEm

07-01-2005, 01:39 PM

Flight of the Navigator!? I LOVED that movie when I was a kid!!

Me too! I always rented that one when I was sick and stayed home from school.

paiger81

07-01-2005, 01:46 PM

Turns out that the previous two releases of War of the Worlds (radio and the first movie) have been during times of war in the US. The first was WWI and the second was during the Cold War (I think - I might have that date wrong).

I know the original radio broadcast was in the late 1930's, and the actual movie was done in 1953, & now we have this one............can anyone tell I had to study HG Wells in high school for a whole 6-week term?? I think they also made it a television series for a little bit...

paiger81

07-01-2005, 01:54 PM

I know a disagree with the majority here, but I actually agree with a lot of what Tom Cruise said about psychiatry. A lot of people are a little over accepting of what their psychiatrists tell them, without every questioning the modern history of psychiatry. It's kind of scary. The mind is infinitely more complex than a simple "chemical imbalance" that can be fixed by a pill. Read some of Thomas Szasz's works if you are interested in a complete discredidation of psychiatry. It has some very strong valid points.

There is a difference between saying "don't accept everything a doc tells you" and saying "PSYCHIATRY is all fake"

I'm sorry, I've had tests down, I have a seratonin imbalance, it affects how my brain functions, that isn't bullshit.

paiger81

07-01-2005, 02:05 PM

An imbalance compared to who?

And how do you know if the chemical imbalance is the cause or the effect?

Look, I'm not gonna get into a debate with you over this, because quite frankly this is one of those topics that severely make my blood boil. Basically, with my issues the very LAST thing I did was get on meds. They were the only thing that helped me from ending up in an institution. I tried holistic, I tried exercise, I tried vitamins, they did not work for me.

My whole issue is that if a person who has a mental disorder finds that meds help them to be "normal", then no one has the right to tell them that they are a weak person, or an idiot for taking them.

paiger81

07-01-2005, 02:15 PM

Ok, I think I may have jumped the gun on your original post. Are you saying that you do not believe that people should be on any mental meds or we just need to be more aware of over-prescription?

I agree that Tom brought up some good points about doing research, cause I do agree that society is overprescribed on pretty much everything, I mean, if you are under the age of 10 & not on Ritalin, you are a freak. That isn't right. But what I disagree with him on is the way he comes off saying that no one needs mental meds--that is what makes my blood boil. I completely feel that some people will need meds, not all.

Does that make sense?

paiger81

07-01-2005, 02:29 PM

I think that pyschiatry is corrupt, by both the pharmaceutical industry, and by the people/parents who pressue them into giving the pills they want. I think pills are fine for a stop-gap, but I genuinely do not think that they are the best/only solution. What happens when the pills run out? They are the easiest solution, and cheapest, and fastest. It might take you 10 years and $10,000 worth of psycotherapy to get that same sense of relief you get for popping one pill. Instant gratification. I understand, I wouldn't want to wait 10 years either. But the pill seems to be more of a band-aid.

Oh, ok, yeah, then my blood isn't boiling. See, I don't take meds forever. Whatever part of the brain that makes my seratonin levels(I forget what it's called) malfunctions. When I was first diagnosed, my body was hardly producing ANY seratonin in it.When you look at my tests, my levels get really low then I take Celexa for a bit(last time it was for 1 year) then for an undetermined reason my body jumpstarts and starts producing seratonin again. So I go off the pills. I don't believe that people should be on meds for extremely long periods of time.

I don't know, for me, science doesn't have all the answers, may never have all the answers, I can only base my choices on what they do know, ya know?

Stormshadow

07-02-2005, 12:59 PM

Getting back to Tom Cruise--it wouldn't matter if chemical imbalances are cause or effect. He doesn't believe there is any such thing.

winneythepooh7

07-02-2005, 01:13 PM

I don't know, for me, science doesn't have all the answers, may never have all the answers, I can only base my choices on what they do know, ya know?

Now THIS is an intelligent statement!!

winneythepooh7

07-02-2005, 01:18 PM

AzureMoogle

07-03-2005, 08:39 PM

Aside from the fact of whether the movie was good or not, I found it a bit disturbing.

I'm not well adjusted to massive human massacre. I saw it just before bed, and actually had a bit of trouble sleeping. Go ahead, make fun of me :p

wordsmith

07-03-2005, 10:53 PM

Although I liked the old cheesy version of another H.G. Wells science novel, The Time Machine, I by and large am not a science fiction person, and alien movies have never held my interest, so I probably won't see this.

I have to say the despite the annoying fountain of shit Tom Cruise is spewing, his relationships and the ensuing self-created media circus, I still really like him as an actor and always have. Still, not enough to get me to sit through War of the Worlds, probably.

coll214

07-05-2005, 09:51 AM

The fact that part of it was filmed in my hometown peaked my curiousity to see it :huge:.

tina1979

07-05-2005, 09:54 AM

I watched it this weekend, on my first "date" in YEARS, with a guy I met on the internet. I called the date off early, but the movie was ok. I wasn't entirely impressed and it reminded me alot of independence day

kitalyn414

07-05-2005, 08:06 PM

ok - so i actually went to the movie theater (a total no-no for me) and saw "war of the worlds." am i the only one who thought this was a piece of crap? wtf? there was absolutely no story, no character development, no "meaning." ugh!!!!

i LOVE sci-fi, and this was one of the worst sci-fi movies i have ever seen. yes, things explode, but come on... where is the deeper meaning? the social commentary???

in addition, tom cruise is awful. i hate him and i hate his ass face.

i am seriously contemplating never going to the movie theater again. i think the last good experience i had was when i saw "finding nemo" by myself at like 10pm on a wednesday after it had been out for WEEKS. last night two teenagers were basically having sex in front of everyone. seriously... the girl was on top of the guy straddling him. i just can't deal.

pisces2473

07-05-2005, 10:05 PM

Kita, don't worry...I have ZERO desire to see it.

Chameleon

07-06-2005, 12:56 AM

I saw the movie. It was visually impressive, but I didn't like it. The friend I saw it with was terrified the entire time, I kept waiting for a change in the mood. The human slaughter got a little tiresome after a while. Plot holes galore, characters I couldn't stand and rushed Disney ending. True to the book, I hear, but perhaps a 100 year old book needed even more tweaking.

It had some intense and surreal moments, but I kept looking at my watch wondering when it was going to end.

Tayl405

07-06-2005, 09:27 AM

Me too! I always rented that one when I was sick and stayed home from school.

I did too!! That and "The Cat from Outer Space," lol.

I saw the movie last night and realy enjoyed it. I agree that it was cheesy and there were plot holes (prob. explained in the books), and Tom Cruise was AWFUL, lol; but if you can take all of it with a grain of salt, it's really fun. I think people need to lighten up (people in general) and take movies for what they are--movies. I thought it was along the lines of Independence Day meets The Blob.

tina1979

07-06-2005, 09:46 AM

It had some intense and surreal moments, but I kept looking at my watch wondering when it was going to end.
Me too! :lol:

paiger81

07-06-2005, 09:48 AM

I think people need to lighten up (people in general) and take movies for what they are--movies.

EXACTLY!! People are at work saying they didn't like it cause "IF they had been here all along, wouldn't we have noticed them underground?!" PEOPLE! This is ENTERTAINMENT, take it as such.

kitalyn414

07-06-2005, 01:09 PM

allright - i started to write a more in depth response as to why i think this movie is not only crappy, but dangerous... but it got so long that i decided to just post it on my blog. you guys can read if you're interested.

Kitty

07-06-2005, 01:17 PM

Kita!

Very interesting blog entry. I agree and thought that all of the terrorist comments/parallels were disturbing.

I also thought there was some type of weird patriotic, bull-shit, happily-ever-after story going on w/ the son and his desire to fight and go to war with the aliens.

paiger81

07-06-2005, 01:21 PM

You know, I never even connected the whole blood for oil thing. Now I just feel like a dumbass :confused:

kitalyn414

07-06-2005, 01:35 PM

You know, I never even connected the whole blood for oil thing. Now I just feel like a dumbass :confused:
lol... don't. my cynicism comes from 2 years of film theory. :evil:

paiger81

07-06-2005, 05:27 PM

lol... don't. my cynicism comes from 2 years of film theory. :evil:

You know, you really can tell the film majors from others. I seriously have to tell Kirk to STFU when watching movies cause he either overanalyzes them or else he goes "I know how they filmed that scene..blah blah blah" I'm like ENJOY THE DAMN MOVIE!! :p

kitalyn414

07-06-2005, 05:35 PM

You know, you really can tell the film majors from others. I seriously have to tell Kirk to STFU when watching movies cause he either overanalyzes them or else he goes "I know how they filmed that scene..blah blah blah" I'm like ENJOY THE DAMN MOVIE!! :p
yeah - it really kind of ruined movies for me to tell you the truth. oh well.