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Benwa
05-28-2003, 07:34 PM
The thing that worries me with the next election is this... Bush has F-ed things up pretty good, so some will be more likely to vote for "other guy". Doesn't matter who, just someone beside this joker. And that worries me. Are we ever going to get someone in there that I feel deserves my vote? Right now I feel like as long as the other candidate hasn't done anything atrocious he's got me. "Well, Candidate Other Guy, have you ever eaten a newborn baby?" "No I haven't." "great, here's my vote."

Part of me wants to boycott voting. Make a conscious choice to not vote. It seems we get screwed no matter whose in there. So voting, no matter who for, is passively supporting a system which is pure junk. It's like the lawsuit against McDonalds a while back over them putting beef fat in their frying oil and not telling people. I guess some hardcore veggies and hindus were super pissed. Hindus particular, because technically McDonalds has made them sin grievously. Although I enjoy a corporation getting one in balls, I can't help but wonder why the hell veggies and hindus were eating at McD's in the first place. They were passively supporting them, even though they weren't buying meat. Just like you passively say the system is fine everytime you vote. I know its a little extreme, but I can't help thinking this opinion has some logical merit to it. More people don't vote than for anyother candidate. Hasn't the majority spoken? The majority wants something different!

jku
05-28-2003, 07:49 PM
The other guy for me? SENATOR JOHN KERRY

www.johnkerry.com

He actually fought in a War. He got into Yale on his own merits. He actually has a resume in government and politics that one can be proud of. He is everything GeorgeW IS NOT.

I understand your point about McDs, but many Hindus are immigrants and subjected to the same advertising as anyone else. They don't see a political/social point in eating somewhere. The guy just wanted some fries, MCD said they were cooked in vegetable oil - BUT they weren't. He sued because he was lied to and trusted them to tell him the truth.

The important thing to keep in mind this election cycle is clear to me: THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES AND PARTIES.

Say what you will about Clinton, he ran this country well. Many of the horrors we are suffering under Bush now wouldn't have happened under Clinton. IMO he bent over backwards to please the right-wing too much (thus there was NO health-care program and welfare "reform") - but under so much pressure due to his personal indiscretions, he stood tall knowing his presidency was under attack. If you don't believe there was "vast right wing conspiracy" to destroy him, you're wrong. Just do the research on a VERY rich man named RICHARD MELON SCHIFF.

Neo
05-29-2003, 10:07 AM
Make a conscious choice to not vote

The problem is that if you don't vote, the greater of the 2 evils is going to win. Let's say in the aftermath, you are still gonna be disappointed no matter what, will you rather feel more disappointed or less? Well, to get any kind of desirable result even at the slightest degree takes work.

Not voting doesn't make any sense at all, conscious or not. If you live in China or Cuba, you won't even have a chance to express whatever it is on your mind. This very post you have here, or this forum, can be considered as a major felony in those countries because they cause political dissent and is a crime that's punishable by death.

But anyway, you are here. Living in this great country that allows you to get involved in choosing the governing system. Although it might not be perfect, but you have an opportunity to be a part of the process. So I mean, no offense, this conscious choice to not vote sounds pretty communist to me. Why don't we all just work for the State and its people for the greater good????