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enigma
07-13-2006, 11:41 AM
I read these two articles a month or so ago and thought it had a lot of good info. I think a lot of people (myself included) are nicer than they are feeling. For me, it is because I care about some people so much that I want to be as nice to them as possible. Maybe this is wrong...

The curse of being too nice in the world of dating and mating
I am everything you want
I am everything you need
I am everything inside of you
That you wish you could be
I say all the right things
At exactly the right time
But I mean nothing to you and I don't know why
(“Everything You Want” lyrics by Vertical Horizon)


Genuinely-nice people are out there.

Basically they feel secure in themselves, and are able to draw on a larger-than-average personal reserve of goodwill towards others. So...they don’t require a lot of recognition and reward for being nice. And sure, sometimes they get frustrated, or even ticked off, with other people’s meanness, but they don’t perpetually carry around a big sack of resentment because of it.

Unfortunately, the harsh reality is that some (not all…) potential romantic partners will assume:

Nice = Boring

And that’s why, in the world of dating and mating, being a good person can feel like a curse. The thing is, if you’re a good person who’s primed for a long-term, serious relationship, there ARE people out there who can match up well with you. The challenging part, of course, is finding them.

Then there are the people who just appear on the surface to be super-nice in dating and relationships. There’s a big gap between how they act and how they feel. And until they become aware of that gap and make some changes, they aren’t going to match up well with anyone.

That's why I think that acting a lot nicer than you feel with the opposite sex can be a big, fat curse for you -- and for them.

Because, behind that mask of niceness, other things tend to lurk that will sabotage people in dating situations and relationships:

Anger
Hostility
Fear of conflict
Need for control
Lack of self-confidence
Overwhelming desire to be liked
How do you know when you’ve gotten involved with someone who’s acting -- but not necessarily feeling -- nice?

At the least, you’ll feel confused, because there’s a sense of disconnect between the person’s nice act with you, and the undercurrent of bad feeling that’s coming your way. Some would call this passive-aggression. Name it what you will. The downside is that you’ll most likely feel guilty, resentful, and ultimately, trapped with that person.

Here’s the harder question: how would you know if you've been struck with the curse of acting much nicer than you authentically feel in dating situations and relationships?

Remember that big sack of resentment? If you're carrying it around from relationship to relationship, and you're still determined to come across as super-nice, the curse might have struck you. But there's good news. The curse CAN be broken.

Next time I'll tell you how.




Break the curse of acting nicer than you feel

“To be a bitch or not to be a bitch, that is the question.”
(Shannon Doherty)

In my recent post, “The curse of being too nice,” I described two big warning signs that you might be spending too much time and energy, acting nicer than you feel:

Resentment follows you from relationship to relationship because you think that nobody’s as nice to you as you are to them
You’re still determined to be recognized and valued for being super nice
Judging from the great comments offered up on the first “Curse” post, some of you are way ahead on the curve for this one. Either you’ve been there, done that, and gotten a handle on it, or it was never an issue for you. But I’ve known quite a few women through the years who feel for various reasons that being nice, no matter what, is the only way to go.

And do you know what I hear most often from women who've been working extra-hard to be, or at least, act nice -- even when they don’t really feel like it?

"It would be so much easier if I were a bitch."

But would it be? I think it's just as much work to keep up a super-sized bad attitude as it is to be super nice.

Still, it's not surprising that women wonder, just as Jodi did in her comment, why men stay with the Shannon Dohertys of the world. Is it because they're real? Yes, some men would rather be with a woman who's real and bitchy than fake and nice. Then again, some men would really rather be ALONE than take on a woman with a high-maintenance bad attitude.

That's why breaking "the curse" of acting nicer than you feel is NOT about going to the other negative extreme. As NML put it in her comment, it's about learning "how to be ourselves naturally."

I’d add that in our relationships with men, we need to learn how to be our best selves naturally. That means each woman being that REAL blend of the good, the bad, and the ugly that is uniquely her. Unfortunately, if you’re accustomed to using niceness as your “honey” in dating and relationships, and you start letting some of the not-as-nice parts hang out, it can be scary at first.

So start slowly. No need to let it all hang out at once, right?

And, if the centerpiece of your self-worth has been your willingness to act nice, even when you feel resentful, then take another good look at yourself. I bet you've been overlooking some of the best real qualities you have.

Winter Storm
07-13-2006, 11:59 AM
I have a whole issue with the word 'nice'. That is because to me, it does equal boring!

If someone were to sum me up in just one word and 'nice' is the one they chose, I'd be disapointed. It is as flattering to me as saying I'm 'levelheaded'.
There is no depth, no heart, no soul and no spark to it and its no surprise to me that it can be a dating curse.

I'd much rather be labled fun, sassy, hilarious, boisterous, amusing, intriguing, interesting, sexy, clever or outspoken. I'd even rather be called weird or strange cause it least it is out of the norm. I hate the very idea of being considered average or mediocre.

I think people who consider themselves nice first should really try and find other more appealing traits of their personality to stand out more. It is usually much better recieved.

Besides, anyone can be nice but stronger personalities are usually seen as much more than that.

enigma
07-13-2006, 12:12 PM
I have always hated being called 'nice' but I seem to get more 'sweet' than nice. I suppose I'm 'nice' because I'm pretty accepting and understanding of people and what they do and say. People know they can talk to me about anything. But, I would hardly consider myself 'boring' or 'average' - I am pretty quirky and goofy sometimes. Old friends of mine have called me 'endearing'.

In relationships though, I do think I have a tendency to be 'too nice'. I know I want to work on this. I am just too accomidating sometimes... normally it doesn't bother me, but recently I have realized how much I have truly given up to date someone I care about. That is something I promised myself I would never do.. again.

wordsmith
07-13-2006, 12:15 PM
I tend to be extremely accommodating in relationships. I enjoy it.

But the problem is that, yes, it DOES get you taken for granted, and worse, it gets to be expected that you'll be accommodating and sacrificing in every instance, even when you shouldn't be.

enigma
07-13-2006, 01:33 PM
The few times when I am not so accomodating, I am called on as being difficult. :rolleyes:

wordsmith
07-13-2006, 01:34 PM
People get really used to a certain dynamic.

enigma
07-13-2006, 01:40 PM
People get really used to a certain dynamic.

And as soon as you are 'demanding' (in their minds) you're all of a sudden 'bitchy'.

At times, I do not express a lot of emotion, but when I do I feel pretty bad about it. I mean if we are feeling emotions we cannot express, what is so bad about expressing them? I just hate when people look at me like as if I am a green-eyed monster when I am not my usual form of 'calm'. And I'm not so sure people deal with the change too well...

Kitty
07-13-2006, 01:54 PM
The post seems to imply that acting nice=fake. I do agree that that can indeed be the case, however, I think that there's some amoutn of "acting nice" that's required to just be a decent, respectful human being.

Winter Storm
07-13-2006, 01:56 PM
And as soon as you are 'demanding' (in their minds) you're all of a sudden 'bitchy'.


Pay them no mind. What some call bitchiness, others call assertiveness.

enigma
07-13-2006, 02:07 PM
The post seems to imply that acting nice=fake. I do agree that that can indeed be the case, however, I think that there's some amoutn of "acting nice" that's required to just be a decent, respectful human being.

Now that I think about it, maybe it is not a nice vs. bitchy competition, as much as it is about being a REAL person. Maybe some people don't trust nice people because they think it is just a façade..

wordsmith
07-13-2006, 02:08 PM
Pay them no mind. What some call bitchiness, others call assertiveness.

Or "not allowing somebody to treat you crappily." That's REALLY bitchy. :rolleyes:

Shenanigans?
07-17-2006, 12:48 AM
I think the problem is that when someone is nice all the time, other people see them as a nice little package that they have figured out. Doing anything out of the ordinary (being assertive or brutaly honest) throws people off. They expect you to be nice all the time, which gets taken for granted. I prefer to be a nice guy, but I've found that other people didn't take me as seriously when I was too nice. So instead of trying to be to nice, now I just try not to be an asshole. You can be respectful of people (and expect it in return) without going out of your way to be seen as a doormat.

I stopped trying to spare peoples feelings all the time. It's not that want to hurt anyones feelings or anything, but being nice all the time just isn't honest. If someone asks my opinion about something and I don't have a positive response, I'm not going to feel bad if they can't handle it.