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lonestar
09-19-2006, 09:50 AM
I have a job interview on Thursday, and have prepared for it. However, I was wondering if anyone knows the rules for an employer obtaining an MVR/driving record...are they allowed to do that? I have a non-moving violation on my record (no seat belt reduced to non-moving, inspection was out of date), and a parking ticket from a couple years ago that I took a while to pay off (like 8 months). I also was issued a ticket for riding the subway without paying a fare when I was younger (this was in 2000) that I paid...does that appear on a driver record?

I am fine in terms of a credit check, but I just wanted to get a gist of what they are looking for when they do a driving record search.

Is anybody else bothered that they can look into this stuff?

WorkInProgress
09-19-2006, 09:52 AM
No idea. Did you already search online for that info?

lonestar
09-19-2006, 09:54 AM
Yeah I also called the town court for where the ticketing occured and they say it stays on your record forever...but I couldn't ask if employers could request it because I am sitting here at work and don't want to let them know that I am interviewing on Thurs...

I am just not sure what employers have access to...a 3 year record or lifetime...

Also does anyone know the range of credit scores that will kill you on an application? I have rebuilt my credit to an acceptable level, but if an employer looks into my past they will find a delinquency from 2001 that I paid off - $500.

cache
09-19-2006, 10:00 AM
MV Records are public records. Anyone can look at anything, anytime. If it is on your record, they can see it.

The question is whether or not they want to. Most places will look at those things and not care...it is the serious things they are looking for.

lonestar
09-19-2006, 10:04 AM
Well here's what I worry about:

many times DWIs get reduced to non-moving violations. I also have a non-moving violation (seat belt, inspection). What if an employer looks at my driver record, sees the non-moving (this is what I was told by my lawyer - aka my dad - that it would be listed as), and thinks "Oh this guy must have gotten a DWI".

CTGirl
09-19-2006, 10:06 AM
We do a lot of background checking for some of our clients, and yeah, we often come across that kind of thing, but our clients rarely care about those minimal things, unless you have a lot of them, which would suggest a trend in your behavior.

For example, we had one guy who had a lot of minor speeding/aggressive driving things, which, I told my client, may suggest some sort of anger issues, but I believe he was hired regardless.

rocket333d
09-19-2006, 10:10 AM
What about credit, though? That scares the ever-living crap out of me. People see a bad credit score and think the person's irresponsible, but what if they just fell on hard times and had a rough time paying their bills? A low credit score doesn't mean someone's a spendthrift.

And I mean, how is someone supposed to improve their credit score if they can't get a job? Scary...

cache
09-19-2006, 10:10 AM
Well here's what I worry about:

many times DWIs get reduced to non-moving violations. I also have a non-moving violation (seat belt, inspection). What if an employer looks at my driver record, sees the non-moving (this is what I was told by my lawyer - aka my dad - that it would be listed as), and thinks "Oh this guy must have gotten a DWI".

I've seen that before, but usually the DWI is reduced to something that still needs explaining. Like a reckless driving charge.

Also, I know it is too late for the current potential employer, but if it concerns you, why not have your MV record expunged/sealed(whatever is available in TX...if anything)?

lonestar
09-19-2006, 10:15 AM
I can do that? Also these offenses were in New York State...the tickets I got in the a town municipality and the subway violation was a city issued ticket (I am not worried about that - it was a $20 ticket and I am not even sure it gets reported).

Maybe when I changed my lisence to Texas these violations did not follow me?

cache
09-19-2006, 10:29 AM
I can do that? Also these offenses were in New York State...the tickets I got in the a town municipality and the subway violation was a city issued ticket (I am not worried about that - it was a $20 ticket and I am not even sure it gets reported).

Maybe when I changed my lisence to Texas these violations did not follow me?

Absolutely not. Records stay in the state that they were issued...like Texas cares what you did in NY. It would just be more records administration. However, when an employer asks for previous addresses for the last X years(typically 5-7), that is why. So they can check out records in other places. Once you get beyond that period, there is nothing to worry about, unless 1. you return to NY or 2. there is a national driver license program created someday.


Interestingly, my car insurance company found out about a speeding ticket I got in Wyoming when I was driving through. How in the hell did they know to check WY driving records?

CTGirl
09-19-2006, 10:32 AM
Absolutely not. Records stay in the state that they were issued...like Texas cares what you did in NY. It would just be more records administration. However, when an employer asks for previous addresses for the last X years(typically 5-7), that is why. So they can check out records in other places. Once you get beyond that period, there is nothing to worry about, unless 1. you return to NY or 2. there is a national driver license program created someday.


Interestingly, my car insurance company found out about a speeding ticket I got in Wyoming when I was driving through. How in the hell did they know to check WY driving records?

We often do full national background checks on people who have lived in other states, so we would find something like that, regardless of what state it was in.

wordsmith
09-19-2006, 11:19 AM
I have a police scanner at my desk at work, and anybody the local law enforcement pulls over, they check a nationwide database for to see if they have any violations/citations/suspensions/warrants/etc. in other states. I don't know if it's entirely accurate to assume that what happens x state stays in x state. Why would it?

HIKU
09-19-2006, 12:13 PM
MVR are counted diffrently in each and every state. And to the statement of "MVR ARE PRUBLIC RECORD" it is NOT... you must pay for it, and usually you need the consent of the individual or the individual must get it. MVR usually does not hold non-moving violation on your record, unless you didn't pay for it at all.

shimma
09-19-2006, 12:18 PM
Lonestar - if any of those violations cost you a job (esp given that the worst are the better part of a decade old) than that employer sucks and would have been toxic to work for anyway.

cache
09-19-2006, 01:26 PM
MVR are counted diffrently in each and every state. And to the statement of "MVR ARE PRUBLIC RECORD" it is NOT... you must pay for it, and usually you need the consent of the individual or the individual must get it.

I beg to differ with this statement. Just because you have to pay for them, doesn't make them non-public records. I can walk into any California DMV office and request Arnold Schwarznegger's or Oprah's DMV records. Because of Public Records Laws, I bet most every state is the exact same way...

lonestar
09-19-2006, 01:31 PM
I don't know if you are allowed to do that...I think you have to have permission. I just paid to have my MVR from Texas sent to me and the website said that only I could request it...they needed not just my DL#, but my DL "audit number", a serial number printed alongside the photo...plus I needed to supply my social security number and other personal information. I don't think I could walk into Texas DPS and ask for Rick Perry's MVR....

cache
09-19-2006, 01:44 PM
From the CA DMV: (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/authority.htm#info)

California Vehicle Code 1808 and the Public Records Act (Government Code Section 6253 et seq.) provide that information collected by the Department is generally considered public information and is subject to inspection by the public. Exceptions to this public disclosure obligation include: Personal Information and Confidential Information.


I know several other states are the same way...