Clothing Budget

[AshleyJordan]

All (and especially QLC ladies,)
Please tell me what your clothing budget is-- either as a percentage of your take-home pay, or in monthly expenses. I strive to keep mine in check, and I'm usually very good with money, but I'm pretty sure that my monthly spending in this area is waaaay out of my league. . .
Thanks!!

[Kitty]

I don't think I'm a good benchmark. I probably spend $400-1k a month, depending on the month.

[SmilesSoSweet]

I don't buy clothes every month. I think I may buy new clothes or replace old ones every 3-4 months. I may buy one item here and there, but never a big shopping spree every month. Even with shoes, this past weekend I bought three pairs (one of them were flip-flops) but I bought those three because I'm replacing three pairs that I already have that I've worn out.

When the few times I do go clothes shopping, I typical spend about $150 (and that's usually with a store coupon since I have a store credit card to the one store I do most of my clothes shopping).

I spent $50 on the three pairs of shoes I bought over the weekend.

[wordsmith]

My clothing budget works like this:

-Buy nothing I don't absolutely need.
-When I absolutely need something, find the most on-sale flattering thing I can, and if nothing's marked down from full price, make do with what I have until it is.

I don't have a set amount, my method is simply to spend as absolutely little as humanly possible on clothing.

Can you tell I don't shop for fun?

[Chameleon]

I probably go clothes shopping once a month and depending on what I'm looking for, I spend $20 - $80, mostly on sale or at Ross or Kohls, (much) more if I'm on a clothing binge or a trip to an outlet mall.

I might be overdue for a purge on my wardrobe - I'm a packrat and can't seem to get rid of anything (sometimes in hopes of actually fitting into it again).

[wordsmith]

Yeah, if there are no needed shopping trips, and it's just picking up something on sale here or there throughout the month, I would be surprised if I spent more than $50 on clothing in a typical month.

[SmilesSoSweet]

Can you tell I don't shop for fun?

You mean people actually shop for fun? I can't do that.

I buy a lot of things from clearance racks at Lane Bryant or at stores like Ross, Mervyns, Kohls and Target.

With shoes I may spend a little more only because my size isn't common (I wear a size 11) but I also take my time and look around at different shoe stores (usually Famous Footwear or DSW) until I find something in my size that I can live with.

I purge my woredobe at least twice a year.

[wordsmith]

Well, strike that. I don't clothing shop for fun. I will get excited to shop for books or movies. But clothing shopping is a pain in my ass, I tend to dread it. The endless trying on of things, the prices, the not liking how stuff looks or the not being able to find quite what I'm looking for or had in mind.

When I MUST clothing shop, I shop solo, because it seriously puts me in the worst mood, and I'll snap at you, guaranteed. My sister's about the only one I'll concede to shop with.

[PenforPrez]

You mean people actually shop for fun? I can't do that.

I'm quite honestly confused at the concept of a regular monthly clothing budget. I cannot think of the last time I went out to buy clothes; it's been years now. I had to have blue slacks for this hotel job, so I dug into my closet and found three pair; some of them must be 10 years old. But it does the trick. :)

Paul

[wordsmith]

Men's clothing styles shift at a MUCH slower rate than women's, though. Men can wear something that's several years old and not look dated, for women, it's more a gamble, because the bulk of the clothing marketed to us is not really classically styled. I try to purchase as much that's basic and classic as possible, but female fashion design throws trendy touches even into basics and classics. Whereas menswear really typically changes much less over time.

[SmilesSoSweet]

When I MUST clothing shop, I shop solo, because it seriously puts me in the worst mood, and I'll snap at you, guaranteed. My sister's about the only one I'll concede to shop with.

I'm the exact same way. I hate shopping with other people. I tend to go to the one store I need to go to, try on clothes, buy them if I like them, then leave.

I'll more of my monthly dispoable income on house stuff and electronics, but even those are not every month.

I'll check my monthly expense spread sheet at home and see how much money I've spent on clothes since May when I started my monthly expense sheet. Just having this spread sheet has helped me budget all my money for the month - whether it's clothes, shoes, dining out, bills, gas, etc.

[brightestblack]

Hmmm I mebbe shop for clothing once every two months, about $50 at most.

Ok... so I shop at Goodwill. I have a hobby of ripping things apart, sewing them back together to fit me and look different. Sometimes I will buy something just for the nifty fabric. If I go to any other clothing store it will be to buy jeans, or clothes only on sale and marked way down.

I buy shoes online.

Oh yes... I also buy fabric. Though some of the time I never end up using it for anything. It sort of sits on the pile of fabric I have, waiting to be created into clothing.

[littledancerus]

Um, I hadn't been clothes shopping at ALL since feb. untill this past Saturday. I went to TJMaxx because I REALLY needed a new pair of jeans. I bought a pair of jeans, a sweater, & a button down shirt. I spent $49. I'm probably done for the winter now... if I had more $$ I'd probably shop more, but as it is... I'd rather spend it on playing sports & food w/ my teammates after games :)

[CuranderaC]

I guess I'm a shopaholic compared to the rest of you. After an online shopping spree 2 months ago I promised myself that I won't buy any more clothing (tops and bottoms), but I can buy shoes and handbags, until Christmas. I typically spend $300 a month on clothes. I go clothing shopping usually 3-5 times a month (its been so hard without buying anything too).

[veniqe]

I'd far rather spend my extra cash on appliances and decor items for my flat. And, yes, I've got 18 pairs of shoes but they're mostly old. Except for the latest addition to the family. I got that from an admirer who took me shopping for shoes and I was honest enough to take him to a relatively cheap store, as opposed to Nine West!!

But seriously, I buy at sales and at inexpensive retail outlets. And I'm gonna be taken on a lingerie shopping spree on Sunday, I think. And Saturday, it's more shoes.

I bought a very well known designer jacket for less than $15. That jacket would cost close to $200 in the store! I once bought a stunning vintage handbag for less than $2! I love bargains. And I love second hand stores. My favourite skirt (that I wore tonight) I got for less than $10!

One doesn't have to spend an inordinate amount of money to look good. Most of my outfits I wear, I got for under $100.

I buy here and there. So I can't really say how much I would spend in any given month. But I need new jeans. cause my old ones have been patched just too many times. Oh and I never really throw shoes away. Only if they're out of fashion. I send them in for repairs so that I can wear them again and again.

[MollyMe]

I hate clothing shopping. Nothing fits. My size is hard to find.
I love shoes though!
I spend about $50/month.

[Winter Storm]

I currently have no clothing budget. I just buy whatever the hell I want.

[mishl982]

A shopping budget is not in my religion.









P.S. I study Shopaholicism and pray to the American Express Rewards Gods :huge:

[veniqe]

Well, my trinity is called "MasterCard, Google and Sony Ericsson"

[wordsmith]

I charge no clothing purchases.

[Krishna]

All (and especially QLC ladies,)
Please tell me what your clothing budget is-- either as a percentage of your take-home pay, or in monthly expenses. I strive to keep mine in check, and I'm usually very good with money, but I'm pretty sure that my monthly spending in this area is waaaay out of my league. . .
Thanks!!


Ummmm. I spend as little as possible. I think I bought 4 outfits total in the last year.

[CuranderaC]

I guess maybe I need to buy so many outfits because I need different sizes all the time since my weight constantly fluctuates. So its like I have a wordrobe in 3 different sizes. :frustrate

[SmilesSoSweet]

Okay, I've looked at my spending spread sheet since May (that's when I started it) and I've spent a total of $274.47 on clothing and shoes. That's since May. Not bad at all.

Last winter I wanted to get a couple of jackets and I went to Ross and bought two really nice ones for under $30 total!

I only like clothes shopping when they're on sale!

[pisces2473]

I don't really have a budget for anything--like, I don't set aside a certain amt of $$ for things each month. I pay my bills and then if there's money left over and I need something, I'll get it.

I used to like shopping for clothes, but that was back in the day when I was thinner, I had more disposable income, and the clothes were better. When I find things I like and are cheap, it's great, but I don't want to have to hunt and peck to find things to wear. I'm a lot like Jess and Wilma on this...

[vxmike]

I don't budget monthly for non-essentials like clothing.

My required monthly expenses get direct-deposited into my "bills" checking accout. The rest goes into a second account which I use for savings and discretionary spending like clothing. Were I to guess I suppose I might average $200/yr for clothing purchases.

[WorkInProgress]

I don't have a clothing budget. I'm like pisces & vxmike in that regard. I would guess that I spend, on average, $50-75 (I'm hoping closer to 50, but some months are more expensive than others) per month on clothes.

[Ciderhillnh]

I dont have a shopping budget but I do have a method.
I evaluate what is in my closet, and keep a tab on what I need (ski jacket, pair of black boots for work, pair of heels for suit in specific color) and then when Im at the store I will look for these items.
I typically buy high end since they last longer. But I make a purchase maybe every other month if even that often.

THe last clothing item I bought, was in August....I was at the Gap adn knew I needed better sweaters for the winter (I have mostly turtle necks and I want to replace them) so I bought 2 V neck sweaters for $30 total.

[wordsmith]

Things don't have to be high end to last longer. I have a pair of leather mary janes from Payless that I've had since I was a freshman in college in 1995 that have held up for 11 years of relatively frequent wearing. I wore them yesterday.

[meatwad]

I bought a $30 pair of pants for Halloween that I'll probably wear about three times ever. Before that, I think I got some new jeans for Christmas last year.

Do socks count? I buy new socks pretty often. There is nothing better (clothing wise) than the feeling of new socks.

[WorkInProgress]

Do socks count? I buy new socks pretty often. There is nothing better (clothing wise) than the feeling of new socks.

...except new underwear. Ahem.

[SmilesSoSweet]

Things don't have to be high end to last longer. I have a pair of leather mary janes from Payless that I've had since I was a freshman in college in 1995 that have held up for 11 years of relatively frequent wearing. I wore them yesterday.

I have a pair of boots that I bought back in 2001 for about $50. They're still in decent shape. I haven't worn them since last winter, so I just have to dust them off and they're ready to go for this season. I keep shoes a lot longer than most only because I wear a size 11. Try finding shoes in that size in a style you want at any typical store. Some stores won't carry shoe sizes beyond a 10.

I also have a lot of affordable clothing items that I didn't pay a whole lot for and I've had them for a few years as well. The only high-end thing I spend on are athletic shoes. I only buy New Balance shoes at the New Balance store because like I mentioned earlier, most places don't carry my size. Also I wear that brand because I can take out the soles and insert my orthotics.

[meatwad]

...except new underwear. Ahem.

Who wears underwear anymore? :confused:

[pisces2473]

Oh WIP--underwear is not a necessity at the Potato Harem. Guess you didn't get that memo. :huge:

[meatwad]

Oh WIP--underwear is not a necessity at the Potato Harem. Guess you didn't get that memo. :huge:

We live off the earth. Our clothes are woven together from 'tater skins.

[WorkInProgress]

Oh WIP--underwear is not a necessity at the Potato Harem. Guess you didn't get that memo. :huge:

There are memos?!

[pisces2473]

Of course!

[embrassezla]

Meh, I buy clothing whenever I feel I need an addition to my wardrobe. This month, I'll probably spend quite a bit as I want to get some pieces for fall, including a pair of boots and 2 fall coats.

[Ciderhillnh]

Ive had bad luck with lower end clothing, it falls apart, it loses its shape etc. Id rather spend more money for the higher quality and have it last longer.

I mostly buy from Lucky jeans, Macy's, Mexx, Lord & Taylor, etc.

Like today……I have on a gap sweater, lucky jeans, banana republic socks, and boots from Aldo.

[pisces2473]

Ive had bad luck with lower end clothing, it falls apart, it loses its shape etc. Id rather spend more money for the higher quality and have it last longer.
Eh, I think this is just a matter of opinion. And, the fact that even if higher end DOES last longer, some people just can't afford it.

I mostly buy from Lucky jeans, Macy's, Mexx, Lord & Taylor, etc.
What's Mexx? I've never heard of it.

Like today……I have on a gap sweater, lucky jeans, banana republic socks, and boots from Aldo.
To all QLC members: DO NOT take this part of Cider's thread as an OK to revive that god-forsaken "What are you wearing thread?" again! You will be banned!

[PVD99]

I spend anywhere from 100-$500 a month. Sometimes I might not buy anything, but sometimes I'll go on a spree.

[J-girl]

There are memos?!
unh did you like MISS IT? :huge:

[wordsmith]

Ive had bad luck with lower end clothing, it falls apart, it loses its shape etc.

Then you've purchased things that weren't well-constructed. And there are plenty of things in all price ranges that aren't well-constructed, and it's definitely doable to find quality manufactured goods at affordable prices. A a higher price tag doesn't mean that something is more durable or higher quality. It may, but it's not a given. There is poorly made stuff in every price range.

Really, it's a misconception that paying more guarantees higher quality.

[WorkInProgress]

unh did you like MISS IT? :huge:

How IS that possible?!

[pisces2473]

Then you've purchased things that weren't well-constructed. And there are plenty of things in all price ranges that aren't well-constructed, and it's definitely doable to find quality manufactured goods at affordable prices. A a higher price tag doesn't mean that something is more durable or higher quality. It may, but it's not a given. There is poorly made stuff in every price range.

Really, it's a misconception that paying more guarantees higher quality.
Yeah, like my Levi's that ripped the FIRST day I was wearing them. Greaaat. :rolleyes:

My Target jeans by Mossimo? No problems. 1/2 the price of Levi's.

[wordsmith]

Meh, I buy clothing whenever I feel I need an addition to my wardrobe.

Same here, as long as I can find what I'm wanting for a price I like.

This month, I'll probably spend quite a bit as I want to get some pieces for fall, including a pair of boots and 2 fall coats.

I'd love to get new boots, it's been a couple of years since I got a pair, and I'm not in love with the ones I have anymore. But I really have had a hard time finding ones I like at a price I'm willing to pay.

[pisces2473]

I need boots too, and I just threw out my 4 yr old pairs because they were now beyond repair. I need new ones, but I'm hard on my shoes so they have to be comfy and at a good price.

[PVD99]

Eh, I think this is just a matter of opinion. And, the fact that even if higher end DOES last longer, some people just can't afford it.

It actually ends up costing you not much more or maybe even less, because you won't have to keep buying clothes over and over again when things fall apart. That's why I don't shop at places like Old Navy or Gap anymore, because while they may have some cute stuff and it's cheap, that's just waht it is... cheap quality. You wash it once and it fades or loses shape.

[wordsmith]

My Target jeans by Mossimo? No problems. 1/2 the price of Levi's.

My mom buys a BUTTload of her teacher-y clothes from Target's Mossimo and Cherokee lines, and Wal Mart's Faded Glory lines...she works with an aide who is a super snobby clotheshorse type, and this woman is always like, "Oh, you look so cute," to my mom. Mom's always like, "Oh, thanks, Wal Mart..." just to watch the chick's face contort when she realizes that she just complimented a low-end top or skirt.

[WorkInProgress]

I need boots too, and I just threw out my 4 yr old pairs because they were now beyond repair. I need new ones, but I'm hard on my shoes so they have to be comfy and at a good price.

I intend to go looking for new boots tonight on my way home from work. Kohl's and DTW were both no-gos earlier, so I'm actually going into *gasp* the mall. I'm hoping the Nine West outlet has a)a great sale (it has happened before) and b)cute, non-pointy-toed, non-thin-heeled, and comfortable boots. We'll see how that goes.

[wordsmith]

It actually ends up costing you not much more or maybe even less, because you won't have to keep buying clothes over and over again when things fall apart. That's why I don't shop at places like Old Navy or Gap anymore, because while they may have some cute stuff and it's cheap, that's just waht it is... cheap quality. You wash it once and it fades or loses shape.

Wearing an Old Navy long-sleeved basic tee pullover right now that's at least five years old, because I know I bought it at the Old Navy on State Street when I was living in Chicago and I haven't lived there since '01. It doesn't seem to be faded, pilled, or shapeless. Looks like any other long-sleeved tee. I'm sure it was one of those "two for twelve dollars" items or something. I'm also sure it's been washed more than once in that time. I figure I've gotten my estimated six bucks' worth.

[wordsmith]

b)cute, non-pointy-toed, non-thin-heeled, and comfortable boots. We'll see how that goes.

This is the problem I'm finding. I can't find anything that's not pointy, thin-heeled, or slouchy. I'm just not feeling very Kelly LeBrock circa 1985.

[SmilesSoSweet]

It actually ends up costing you not much more or maybe even less, because you won't have to keep buying clothes over and over again when things fall apart. That's why I don't shop at places like Old Navy or Gap anymore, because while they may have some cute stuff and it's cheap, that's just waht it is... cheap quality. You wash it once and it fades or loses shape.

How are you washing your clothes? I buy clothes from Old Navy, Target and such because why pay a whole lot of money for something that will go out of season? I do purge my clothes regularly so I don't feel bad when I donate clothes to Goodwill because I don't think "wow, I spent $XXX on this, I can't give it away."

My clothes from these stores seem to last a long time.

But whatever floats your boat on clothes. We all have our opinions. I just know I feel much better that in six months I spent only $250 on clothes and shoes and that I stretch out my disposable income elsewhere - like the money I spent for my plane ticket to Hawaii for Christmas! =)

[WorkInProgress]

This is the problem I'm finding. I can't find anything that's not pointy, thin-heeled, or slouchy. I'm just not feeling very Kelly LeBrock circa 1985.

Exactly. And no weird buckles, either. Apparently that's in right now.

I have a hard time with shoes. I'm very picky and they have to be just right.

[pisces2473]

It actually ends up costing you not much more or maybe even less, because you won't have to keep buying clothes over and over again when things fall apart. That's why I don't shop at places like Old Navy or Gap anymore, because while they may have some cute stuff and it's cheap, that's just waht it is... cheap quality. You wash it once and it fades or loses shape.
Wow, you think Gap is cheap? What do you think of Target--rags?

My mom buys a BUTTload of her teacher-y clothes from Target's Mossimo and Cherokee lines, and Wal Mart's Faded Glory lines...she works with an aide who is a super snobby clotheshorse type, and this woman is always like, "Oh, you look so cute," to my mom. Mom's always like, "Oh, thanks, Wal Mart..." just to watch the chick's face contort when she realizes that she just complimented a low-end top or skirt.
HAHAHA, my mom too! Same things happen with her snobby teacher coworkers. "Cute outfit, Judy!" "Thanks, it's from Walmart!" LOL

b)cute, non-pointy-toed, non-thin-heeled, and comfortable boots. We'll see how that goes.
You too? I HATE thin heels, thin soles and pointy toes. I wear a 9.5 W or a 10 M. I need comfort!

[SmilesSoSweet]

I need boots too, and I just threw out my 4 yr old pairs because they were now beyond repair. I need new ones, but I'm hard on my shoes so they have to be comfy and at a good price.

I have another pair of boots that go all the way up to just under my knees. I think they fit me again this year (when I gained weight last year, I couldn't get those boots to zip up in the calf area! LOL)

I'm really hoping to get at least another season of wear on my other pair of boots. I am looking for replacements for those, but in the meantime I'll stick to the ones I have. I'm also really good at only having X pairs of shoes at one time. If I buy a new pair, I have to get rid of at least one pair that I currently have.

[Kitty]

Cheaper clothes tend to be made of more man-made/cheaper materials and therefore do tend to fall apart more quickly or not hold up. However, you can get leather, wool, cotton, silk, etc. for relatively good prices these days. I don't care so much about brand names, but I am a bit of a material snob.

[pisces2473]

Cheaper clothes tend to be made of more man-made/cheaper materials and therefore do tend to fall apart more quickly or not hold up. However, you can get leather, wool, cotton, silk, etc. for relatively good prices these days. I don't care so much about brand names, but I am a bit of a material snob.
Yeah, I am too w/ materials. I HATE acrylic! I think a 100% cotton tee from Target will be just as good as one from Gap, though.

[Kitty]

This is the problem I'm finding. I can't find anything that's not pointy, thin-heeled, or slouchy. I'm just not feeling very Kelly LeBrock circa 1985.

Well, round-toe, chunky heels are in right now. You shouldn't have a problem.

[embrassezla]

hahhaa, I'm totally trying to buy a pair of slouchy suede boots with a buckle.

[pisces2473]

Well, round-toe, chunky heels are in right now. You shouldn't have a problem.
Okay "Stacy"...find us some boots!

[wordsmith]

I don't care so much about brand names, but I am a bit of a material snob.

Same here. I don't like most synthetic materials except as an add-in (some Lycra in a cotton top, etc.), but you're right, you can get natural fibers at less expensive stores, too.

[Kitty]

Yeah, I am too w/ materials. I HATE acrylic! I think a 100% cotton tee from Target will be just as good as one from Gap, though.
Yeah, I agree. As long as the materials are comprable, I don't think there's going to be an insane difference in the amount of time the garments last.

[pisces2473]

hahhaa, I'm totally trying to buy a pair of slouchy suede boots with a buckle.
Do they have dangling leather pieces with beads on them?

[meatwad]

How IS that possible?!

I've got to be careful about my flirting. I don't want to step on the other members toes at all. I won't name any names, but apparantly I was 'Macking on his bitches and I better step off.' *ducks* :D

[wordsmith]

Well, round-toe, chunky heels are in right now. You shouldn't have a problem.

Not here, sadly for me (round-toe, chunky heel is all I prefer to wear anyway, in style or no). It will take a while for them to trickle this way. It's seriously all pointy-toed Whitesnake videoesque shit with dominatrix buckles right now.

[pisces2473]

Not here, sadly for me (round-toe, chunky heel is all I prefer to wear anyway, in style or no). It will take a while for them to trickle this way. It's seriously all pointy-toed Whitesnake videoesque shit with dominatrix buckles right now.
What about those websites that Kitty and Met always shop at?

[embrassezla]

Do they have dangling leather pieces with beads on them?
ZEE BOOTS!

[pisces2473]

Do you really like those, Emb, or are you just kidding around? I can't tell, sorry!

[WorkInProgress]

You too? I HATE thin heels, thin soles and pointy toes. I wear a 9.5 W or a 10 M. I need comfort!

Detest with a fiery passion. I just wear 7.5-8 and I need decent shoes. I refuse to wear poorly fitting, uncomfortable, poorly constructed shoes ever again, if I can help it. Shoes that "eat my feet" are out of the question.

[embrassezla]

Do you really like those, Emb, or are you just kidding around? I can't tell, sorry!
LOL! I will be purchasing them imminently, no joke!

[pisces2473]

Detest with a fiery passion. I just wear 7.5-8 and I need decent shoes. I refuse to wear poorly fitting, uncomfortable, poorly constructed shoes ever again, if I can help it. Shoes that "eat my feet" are out of the question.
Yes, that is why I wear Clarks and Born...and I don't care if I look like I'm 45. I hate being uncomfy.

Oh and I plan on wearing flats with my wedding gown!

[SmilesSoSweet]

Okay "Stacy"...find us some boots!

And if the come in a size 11 I'll take a pair! LOL

[pisces2473]

LOL! I will be purchasing them imminently, no joke!
Those aren't too bad, actually. I couldn't wear that heel, but they aren't bad at all.

[Kitty]

http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955/6h/images2.nordstrom.com/ImageGallery/store/Product/MediumLarge/19/_5268119.jpg
http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955/6h/images2.nordstrom.com/ImageGallery/store/Product/MediumLarge/7/_5065327.jpg
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http://a1216.g.akamai.net/f/1216/955/6h/images2.nordstrom.com/ImageGallery/store/Product/MediumLarge/7/_5065327.jpg
http://www.zappos.com/images/727/7274617/5007-322717-d.jpg

[WorkInProgress]

What about those websites that Kitty and Met always shop at?

I MUST try shoes on.

[WorkInProgress]

Kitty, I rather like those last ones.

[Kitty]

I MUST try shoes on.

it's free shipping both ways - you can't lose.

[Kitty]

Oh yeah..and these are from Target and are pretty nice for the price. I have them:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000F98KPS.16._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS260_V51912211_.jpg

[meatwad]

I swear to God I don't have a foot fetish, but what is it about a woman in boots that gets me going?

[embrassezla]

i'm pretty lucky in that i can wear almost any shoe in my size - i order most things online.

[wordsmith]

What about those websites that Kitty and Met always shop at?

Oh, I don't really clothes or shoe-shop online. Trying stuff on is pretty key, and I'm not really patient about shipping back and forth and trial and error.

[WorkInProgress]

it's free shipping both ways - you can't lose.

Hm. That's interesting.

[Kitty]

Hm. That's interesting.

And you have 365 days to return the shoes. It's a pretty sweet deal. Plus, they do 110% price matches.

[pisces2473]

Okay...what about ones that don't come up that far on the calf? I have big calves...even when I'm thinner.

[pisces2473]

Kitty, which site are you referring to? Zappos?

[WorkInProgress]

And you have 365 days to return the shoes. It's a pretty sweet deal. Plus, they do 110% price matches.
So what's this website? I'll have to check it out.

[Kitty]

Okay...what about ones that don't come up that far on the calf? I have big calves...even when I'm thinner.

I would try those Target ones I posted...they're really wide.

Also, Jcrew has extended calf sizes.

I actually think a shorter boot will cut you off in an unflattering way..unless you're planning to wear them under jeans?

[Kitty]

So what's this website? I'll have to check it out.

zappos.com. I think shoes.com has the same policy as well. But I *heart* zappos.

[steph78]

Oh and I plan on wearing flats with my wedding gown!
This is the best plan ever. I wore white satin ballet flats with my wedding gown and I was SOOO comfy all day. I initially decided on those shoes because my husband and I are the same height and I didn't want to wear tall heels which would make me tower over him, but the comfort factor was the real bonus!

[wordsmith]

Real Simple once had an article about how to put your own gores in boots of various materials that are too snug in the calf area.

[pisces2473]

I don't do the boots with skirts thing, esp. since I'm not cold-weather skirt wearer. I would wear them under pants, yes.

Didn't know that about JCrew, thanks!

[wordsmith]

This is the best plan ever. I wore white satin ballet flats with my wedding gown and I was SOOO comfy all day. I initially decided on those shoes because my husband and I are the same height and I didn't want to wear tall heels which would make me tower over him, but the comfort factor was the real bonus!

My sister in law wore Nikes. They had little pink sparkly swooshes, not that they showed.

[Kitty]

I don't do the boots with skirts thing, esp. since I'm not cold-weather skirt wearer. I would wear them under pants, yes.

Didn't know that about JCrew, thanks!

Ah, okay..then yeah, it would be kind of lame to wear a boot that high under jeans!

[pisces2473]

This is the best plan ever. I wore white satin ballet flats with my wedding gown and I was SOOO comfy all day. I initially decided on those shoes because my husband and I are the same height and I didn't want to wear tall heels which would make me tower over him, but the comfort factor was the real bonus!
Hahaha, yes, those are the exact same reasons I'm wearing flats--comfort and not to be super taller than C. He's like an inch taller than me!

But comfort is a FIRST priority. Also, we're having our pics taken on this breakwater and it's rocky. The photog warned me ahead of time to WEAR SNEAKERS.

[Kitty]

I wish I had done that when I was a bridesmaid..my dress completely covered my feet and I suffered in these hideous 3-inch white/sparkly shoes from payless that we all had to wear.

[pisces2473]

I wish I had done that when I was a bridesmaid..my dress completely and covered my feet and I suffered in these hideous 3-inch white/sparkly shoes from payless that we all had to wear.
Exactly! I hate when I see brides spend $$$ on shoes that they hate, make their feet hurt, etc and end up taking off. Why not be comfy from the get-go? For my friends wedding, I bought flip flops from Old Navy that were the same color as the dress, and as soon as pics were over, flip flop time!

Same goes for the maids--get what you want!

[Kitty]

Exactly! I hate when I see brides spend $$$ on shoes that they hate, make their feet hurt, etc and end up taking off. Why not be comfy from the get-go? For my friends wedding, I bought flip flops from Old Navy that were the same color as the dress, and as soon as pics were over, flip flop time!

Same goes for the maids--get what you want!

yeah, I ended up just dancing barefoot because I couldn't handle the shoes for one minute longer.

[WorkInProgress]

I'm wearing black strappy dress shoes I already had to the black tie ( :eek: ) wedding I'm in later this year. Thank goodness! The bride hasn't said boo about them, but she's been great about everything for us bms, so that's no surprise.

[asm198]

I think the last time I shopped was 3 months ago. I bought two pairs of jeans and a top. Before that, I think it was easily 7 months since I bought any clothing. I have more clothes than I know what to do with as it is.

Currently, I'm on the hunt for a black suit jacket that doesn't cost a million dollars and doesn't make me look like Sgt. Pepper. Apparently, this is impossible to find.

[springhaze]

Exactly! I hate when I see brides spend $$$ on shoes that they hate, make their feet hurt, etc and end up taking off. Why not be comfy from the get-go? For my friends wedding, I bought flip flops from Old Navy that were the same color as the dress, and as soon as pics were over, flip flop time!

Same goes for the maids--get what you want!

I just went to a wedding a couple of weeks ago, and since I knew there was going to be lots of dancing at the reception I brought two pairs of shoes. I wore my cute dressier strappy heels for the wedding ceremony and then changed into black ballet flats for the reception and dancing. I'm so glad I did that- dancing all night in my heels would have killed my feet, but I didn't want to be barefoot.

[SmilesSoSweet]

My sister in law wore Nikes. They had little pink sparkly swooshes, not that they showed.

My SIL wore the heels for the ceremony at the church, but changed to white flip flops for the reception.

I had silver dyeable shoes from Payless that I wore for the ceremony then as soon as we did our grand entrance at the reception I switched them out for silver Old Navy $3 flip flops. It was so comfortable!

[SmilesSoSweet]

I don't do the boots with skirts thing, esp. since I'm not cold-weather skirt wearer. I would wear them under pants, yes.

Didn't know that about JCrew, thanks!

I wear my boots with jeans or long dress pants. Most regular length pants (whether jeans or dressy) are longer than I need them to be (I'm also 5-6, so I get the short length sometimes).

But for the knee high boots (or what I refer to them as the eff-me boots) I'll wear that with a long skirt. But I went one whole year without wearing them because I gained weight and I couldn't get them to zip up all the way past the calves! And those boots even have an elastic material on them too!

[SunDevil]

I probably spend $700/year on clothes. But I don't throw away any clothes. I'm wearing a shirt today that I got when I was 15.

[mishl982]

You guys are too funny.

I LOVE pointy toe and thin heel boots! My last pair was super comfortable but it dying. But as much as I need a new pair I am trying to hold off on buying them as long as I can because it's not really something I terribly need. I am also the type who would just buy one tall boot so that I can wear them with skirts and with pants. One universal boot!

In my closet I have all sorts of random things - clothes that cost me $4.99 to $200, and sizes in small to extra large.

Oh and I don't always shop like crazy. I can go from spending $0 on clothes one month to $500 the next (but $500 is very very extreme for me and a rare occurance). My clothing store choices range from Target to Banana Republic. I think BR is the most I'll spend on clothes.

[Chameleon]

Before this gets back on topic, can I ask a quick (and probably stupid sounding) question to boot wearers?

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?

[asm198]

Before this gets back on topic, can I ask a quick (and probably stupid sounding) question to boot wearers?

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?

I have a pair of biker boots that I wear to work in the winter and change into my regular shoes/boots when I get to work. Everyone I've worked with has thought I'm crazy, but they've got great traction and don't have to worry about having wet socks/cold feet for the rest of the day.

[pisces2473]

Before this gets back on topic, can I ask a quick (and probably stupid sounding) question to boot wearers?

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?
LOLOLOLOL

DO NOT wear "cute" boots in the snow and/or ice. You will slip and fall, and probably get frostbite. They are not waterproof nor warm.

If I'm going just from the car into a bar, I'll wear 'em. But if I'm going for a walk and I'm not sure how long I'll be out for--I wear snow boots. I really don't give a sh*t what people think about my shoes, because I'm not the dumbass falling down on the ice. I also get cuter looking snow boots.

[embrassezla]

Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?
That's another thing I need...cute winter boots :). No changing necessary!

[mishl982]

I would fall on my ass if I tried to wear boots in the snow. Well, okay, I've done it, but I've walked very carefully!

My mom gave me some old pair of winter boots and sometimes I'll just keep those on all day at work :) They are so comfortable.

[SmilesSoSweet]

Can I just say I love the fact that I've never lived anywhere where I had to worry about snow and walking outside. hehehe :)

[WorkInProgress]

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?

This type of behavior (changing from practical to cute shoes) is common of commuters (especially those on public transportation) around where I live (but particularly people going into the city) year round. In July you'll see gobs of women in nice dressy outfits and white sneakers on the metro. In Junuary, it'll be cold-weather boot types of shoes. They change when they get to the office.

[wordsmith]

Before this gets back on topic, can I ask a quick (and probably stupid sounding) question to boot wearers?

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?

It depends. If I'm going to be spending considerable time walking in snow, I'd wear snow boots. If I'm really only going to be outside from the time it takes to get to the car and destination X and it happens to be snowing, I'll just wear my regular boots or shoes. It's the same as when I had to ride the bus or train and then walk a mile to get to my former job...I'd wear suitable shoes to make the walk, and carry my dressier shoes if I was wearing them, in my bag to change into.

For non-snowboots, I tend to only buy ones that can handle moving around in snowy weather (i.e. no spindly heels). Partial reason for the quest for chunky heels. Also no slippery soles.

[weary]

timberland has actually started to make in the last couple years some really cute women's boots that can be worn for style AND snow. i'm buying some this year. :)

[Kitty]

Can I just say I love the fact that I've never lived anywhere where I had to worry about snow and walking outside. hehehe :)

Same. The most I have to worry about is leather boots in the rain.

[pisces2473]

Shut up, you crazy Californians!!!! lol

[cheshrcarol]

What kind of snow boots do you guys wear?

[CTGirl]

Can I just say I love the fact that I've never lived anywhere where I had to worry about snow and walking outside. hehehe :)

I'll keep my 4 seasons and feet of snow every winter thank you very much :huge:

I have a friend who grew up in NY and moved to Los Angeles, and said she's so bored of the sun and warm weather every day, and misses the "never know what you're gonna get" of the northeast, lol

[Kitty]

Are snow boots like Uggs?

ETA: Whoa..I hit 8k with the posts. Craaaazy.

[J-girl]

Before this gets back on topic, can I ask a quick (and probably stupid sounding) question to boot wearers?

If you live somewhere that gets cold over winter (temperatures in the teens and lower) with snow and stuff, do you wear these boots outside? I love cute boots and made the mistake of thinking I could walk around in them in the snow when I visited a cold city. Do you wear winter boots then change into cute boots when you get to your destination?
yeah thats what i do. But thats primarily to protect my pants not boots. But I usually will wear normal boots in snow, not for long periods though.

[weary]

Shut up, you crazy Californians!!!! lol

yeah, the only time i really miss cali is in the WINTER. ugh.

[wordsmith]

Not really.

[pisces2473]

Are snow boots like Uggs?

ETA: Whoa..I hit 8k with the posts. Craaaazy.
OH NO WAY.

[weary]

uggs would die a quick death if worn in new england snow everyday. quick.

[WorkInProgress]

OH NO WAY.

LOL. Too funny! I do not understand why Uggs are fashionable. They do look like they might be warm, though.

[CTGirl]

Are snow boots like Uggs?


LOL, no, and those girls who think that Uggs work well in the snow just end up ruining them and looking silly in the process :razz:

[pisces2473]

uggs would die a quick death if worn in new england snow everyday. quick.
nooo kidding! I don't get why people in Cali wear them...isn't it hot there? Why would you wanna wear fleece boots?

[Kitty]

nooo kidding! I don't get why people in Cali wear them...isn't it hot there? Why would you wanna wear fleece boots?

It was a trend, but it kind of died. I personally hate uggs and think they're hideous. I never got it.

I guess I have no idea what snow boots are :rolleyes:

[cheshrcarol]

Yeah, no one really wears Uggs for their usefulness :razz: . I was just wondering if people really wear things like these (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=the-north-face-nuptse-booties&categoryId=47937&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3653&cat4=1039&shop_method=pp&feat=3653-tn) for everyday use?

[CTGirl]

I guess I have no idea what snow boots are :rolleyes:

I usually do some sort of "hiking boot" for winter boots, although a good sneaker generally works just fine too. Also, as far as just walking to work and running errands and such, any decent, practical pair of shoes will do fine, as they do tend to shovel/plow walkways.

We used to have these chicks in college who'd walk around in stilleto-like heels in the ice and snow in Binghamton, not the brightest idea :googly:

[wordsmith]

Suede looks real shitty in a hurry if it's repeatedly exposed to serious snow.

[CTGirl]

I was just wondering if people really wear things like these (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=the-north-face-nuptse-booties&categoryId=47937&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3653&cat4=1039&shop_method=pp&feat=3653-tn) for everyday use?

People I know who own boots like that wear them when they've gotta clear 3 feet of snow off the driveway, they don't generally wear them to work or anything, but then I suppose that depends on the level of snow-clearing where you live.

[pisces2473]

It was a trend, but it kind of died. I personally hate uggs and think they're hideous. I never got it.

I guess I have no idea what snow boots are :rolleyes:
Yeah, I never liked them either.

LOL you wish you knew more about snow boots!

[wordsmith]

Standard wear all winter where I went to college (Minnesota).

[Kitty]

Yeah, I never liked them either.

LOL you wish you knew more about snow boots!

I seriously thought they were like uggs because when I visited my friend in Boston last year it was snowing and everyone had them on. I bought some PU boots from Old Navy that I figured wouldn't get destroyed in the snow and then wore like 2 pairs of socks. Worked well.

[weary]

Yeah, no one really wears Uggs for their usefulness :razz: . I was just wondering if people really wear things like these (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=the-north-face-nuptse-booties&categoryId=47937&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3653&cat4=1039&shop_method=pp&feat=3653-tn) for everyday use?

i have a couple sort of like that for when i'm going to be outside before the driveway/walkway's been shoveled or if we go skiing and i want something to walk around in other than those god-awful ski boots. but that's about it.

i don't wear snow boots for every day use b/c i go from garage (home) to garage (work). lucky, i know. :huge:

i do keep a pair in my car just in case though, once winter is in full swing.

[J-girl]

nooo kidding! I don't get why people in Cali wear them...isn't it hot there? Why would you wanna wear fleece boots?
Uggs were actually invented in Australia to keep the surfer's feets warm after surfing. I guess the trend caught on in LA.

[CTGirl]

i do keep a pair in my car just in case though, once winter is in full swing.

This is a bit off topic, but anyone else keep a shovel in their car all winter? :)

[SmilesSoSweet]

Shut up, you crazy Californians!!!! lol

And to think when I moved to Arizona, the winters here are actually COLDER than back in Cali! hehehehe.

We have 4 seasons in Arizona - hot, flippin' hot, not so hot, and cold (winter months). hehehehe

[pisces2473]

People I know who own boots like that wear them when they've gotta clear 3 feet of snow off the driveway, they don't generally wear them to work or anything, but then I suppose that depends on the level of snow-clearing where you live.
Yeah I have boots like these for shoveling my driveway and cleaning off my car: LLBEAN (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=llbean-boots&categoryId=20950&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=3652&cat4=1039&shop_method=pp&feat=3652-tn)

Not exactly like those, but close. They belonged to my grandfather. LOL

I don't wear them to work or anything.

[cheshrcarol]

Uggs were actually invented in Australia to keep the surfer's feets warm after surfing. I guess the trend caught on in LA.
I read somewhere that actresses started wearing them in between takes because they were warm and comfy. Then it caught on as a trend. I actually like Uggs, just not the whole fleece boots w/a mini skirt thing.

[pisces2473]

I seriously thought they were like uggs because when I visited my friend in Boston last year it was snowing and everyone had them on. I bought some PU boots from Old Navy that I figured wouldn't get destroyed in the snow and then wore like 2 pairs of socks. Worked well.
PU? What?

[weary]

This is a bit off topic, but anyone else keep a shovel in their car all winter? :)

oh HELL YES! it only took one time for me to get stuck and i was a shovel, brush and boot carying queen ever since! i've got a whole friggin' snow and emergency kit in my car now. :p

[WorkInProgress]

This is a bit off topic, but anyone else keep a shovel in their car all winter? :)

Broom. To sweep the snow off. I could use the squeegee, though, I guess. (But I do keep a sleeping bag in my car.)

[wordsmith]

Ones like these (http://www.shoebuy.com/pi/lacro/lacro54545_lg.jpg) are pretty common if you're spending any significant time out in the elements here.

[pisces2473]

This is a bit off topic, but anyone else keep a shovel in their car all winter? :)
I did because the plows at school sucked, so I was always digging myself out. And when I commuted by train, I parked in an open lot, so my car always had snow on it.

[Kitty]

PU? What?

polyurethane - fake leather.

[wordsmith]

oh HELL YES! it only took one time for me to get stuck and i was a shovel, brush and boot carying queen ever since! i've got a whole friggin' snow and emergency kit in my car now. :p

Shovel, brush, boots, extra gloves and outerwear are a must when driving in winter, here.

[Kitty]

Ones like these (http://www.shoebuy.com/pi/lacro/lacro54545_lg.jpg) are pretty common if you're spending any significant time out in the elements here.

Women wear those?

[pisces2473]

OH! duh....

[weary]

Broom. To sweep the snow off. I could use the squeegee, though, I guess. (But I do keep a sleeping bag in my car.)

sleeping bag huh?....

:idea:

[WorkInProgress]

the whole fleece boots w/a mini skirt thing.

I actually saw a grown woman in this get up last weekend. I kinda wanted to ask her a)if she knew that that was sooooooo two years ago and b)if she knew that it was ugly even when it was popular. But I didn't.

[WorkInProgress]

sleeping bag huh?....

:idea:

You should try it sometimes. You know what the best way to stave off hypothermia is, right? ;)

[wordsmith]

sleeping bag huh?....

:idea:

I keep a wool army blanket. If I get off the road on ice in the winter where I live, I could be waiting a long time for a tow. It's best to have something you can wrap up in in case you need it.

[Kitty]

I actually saw a grown woman in this get up last weekend. I kinda wanted to ask her a)if she knew that that was sooooooo two years ago and b)if she knew that it was ugly even when it was popular. But I didn't.

Ugh. I HATED that look when everyone was wearing it. That was by far the worst trend in a long time. My friend STILL wears it, and she's otherwise very fashionable. I really don't get how anyone can look in the mirror in that get-up and think it looks cute.

[pisces2473]

Um, Words and WIP...why do you have the same user title?

[weary]

You should try it sometimes. You know what the best way to stave off hypothermia is, right? ;)

yup.
BODY HEAT. ;)

[WorkInProgress]

Women wear those?

Think of it as golashes for snow. (I grew up in "duck boots" when it snowed. I now rely more on hiking boots, if I must, which I don't, generally.)

[Kitty]

Um, Words and WIP...why do you have the same user title?

Well, according to and1grad, they're twins.

[wordsmith]

We were bestowed the title by KCboy and dsprackle.

[weary]

Um, Words and WIP...why do you have the same user title?

see the "decent guy" thread.

the "W" women are apparently taking over the board. :razz:

[WorkInProgress]

Um, Words and WIP...why do you have the same user title?

It was something an exasperated poster from another thread wrote, and it was funny. When I did it, I didn't know that others were. It was apparently too delicious not to use.

[Ciderhillnh]

Mexx is a store on 5th avenue in NYC.

As far as quality....Ive found that Old Navy, Gap, American Eagle.....they used to have good quality clothing, now its really thin and not well made so I wont shop there.

Also when Im looking for work clothes, Im looking for well tailored clothes, and sturdy well made shoes.....so I do shell out a bit more than if I was going to Kohls, target etc (but I go there for workout or beach wear stuff). Its not unheard of for me to drop $150 on a blazer, or $80 on a dress shirt.

[pisces2473]

see the "decent guy" thread.

the "W" women are apparently taking over the board. :razz:
OH you have it too!!!! LOL

[Kitty]

As far as quality....Ive found that Old Navy, Gap, American Eagle.....they used to have good quality clothing, now its really thin and not well made so I wont shop there.



What's thin? 'cause, I was at GAP recently and they have some pretty heavy duty wool jackets.

[pisces2473]

Mexx is a store on 5th avenue in NYC.
Wow, so you go to NYC from Metro Boston to shop?

[Kitty]

Wow, so you go to NYC from Metro Boston to shop?

If I lived a train ride (even a long train ride) from NYC - I would so do the same.

[pisces2473]

What's thin? 'cause, I was at GAP recently and they have some pretty heavy duty wool jackets.
Yeah, I don't get why the Boston area people think Gap is cheap and "thin."

[weary]

OH you have it too!!!! LOL

yeah, i think we're just waiting on winter & wilma...then we will take over the world!!! :p

[pisces2473]

If I lived a train ride (even a long train ride) from NYC - I would so do the same.
LOL see, I'm so intimidated by that stuff.

[Kitty]

yeah, i think we're just waiting on winter & wilma...then we will take over the world!!! :p

Damn, if only I had made my screen name Witty.

[pisces2473]

Damn, if only I had made my screen name Witty.
And mine would be Wisces.

[weary]

LOL see, I'm so intimidated by that stuff.

trains or shopping?

[asm198]

I don't carry a shovel with me, but I always carry jumper cables and bags of salt in the winter. And the boots that Words posted, I've had several pairs of something similar. Those and coveralls were worn frequently in the winter when I was in high school.

[WorkInProgress]

I don't carry a shovel with me, but I always carry jumper cables and bags of salt in the winter.
I have jumper cables in my car too.

[pisces2473]

trains or shopping?
LMAO

Shopping at upscale places, in NYC or other places. Maybe if I was thinner I wouldn't have a problem. I feel like the sales people are thinking "Isn't it obvious you won't fit into anything here? Why do you even bother looking?"

[Kitty]

LMAO

Shopping at upscale places, in NYC or other places. Maybe if I was thinner I wouldn't have a problem. I feel like the sales people are thinking "Isn't it obvious you won't fit into anything here? Why do you even bother looking?"

I would personally go for the consignment shops, vintage shops, and flea markets. Most of the other stores on 5th you can find anywhere.

[pisces2473]

I would personally go for the consignment shops, vintage shops, and flea markets. Most of the other stores on 5th you can find anywhere.
Yeah, like most of the stores on 5th have other locations, like in SF, or Boston...

I agree, I found some fun stuff in the Village when I was last in NYC.

[weary]

LMAO

Shopping at upscale places, in NYC or other places. Maybe if I was thinner I wouldn't have a problem. I feel like the sales people are thinking "Isn't it obvious you won't fit into anything here? Why do you even bother looking?"

sorry "wisces"...i couldn't resist. :huge:

where do you like to shop? NYC has so many great little finds; you don't have to go to snobby row (5th, madison) to geat some wonderful stuff. i really like SoHo, NoHo, tribeca and the village.

[Ciderhillnh]

When I was in Gap I was feeling the material on the sweaters and it was very thin and cheap and flimsy (just like their work shirts) I wasnt about to drop $50 on a sweater that didnt feel thick enough to keep me warm or make it through more than one washing.

Yes I do go to NYC to go shopping. I was there 2 weeks ago for vacation.....and 5th avenue was on the hit list.


I also adore club monaco!

As for jeans, I used to wear American Eagle but then I bought a pair and in 10 washes were so thin they ripped!!! So I went to Lucky and now buy their jeans, they fit better and look great, and they are durable.

[pisces2473]

I had to..."trains or shopping?" LOLOLOL

Most definitely NOT afraid of trains!

I like basic clothes, with funky things thrown in to break it up.

[pisces2473]

When I was in Gap I was feeling the material on the sweaters and it was very thin and cheap and flimsy (just like their work shirts) I wasnt about to drop $50 on a sweater that didnt feel thick enough to keep me warm or make it through more than one washing.

Yes I do go to NYC to go shopping. I was there 2 weeks ago for vacation.....and 5th avenue was on the hit list.

I thought that was your first trip to NYC?

I agree, I wouldn't spend $50 on a thin sweater. To me, sweaters should be THICK and WARM!

[Ciderhillnh]

I had gone in February with my BF.......and had stopped in along 5th ave my first year in college.

Yeah recently it just feels like Gap clothing is so thin and flimsy----I always pick up and test out fabrics in my hand..if they feel thin and low quality, not even going to bother with it.

I once got a wool coat from Gap.....the threads werent finished, and the lining started to pull out and then the pockets got holes only after a few times wearing it.
So I wont bother with their jackets either.

They used to be pretty high end and well made-----now eveything seems cheap and ill fitting.

[embrassezla]

I don't wash sweaters - it seems like their very nature would prevent withstanding multiple washings.

[pisces2473]

They used to be pretty high end and well made-----now eveything seems cheap and ill fitting.
Very true. I have a corduroy jacket that I got when I was a freshman in college. Still have it. It's worn, but that's because it's 8 years old! But it didn't start to "go" until maybe 3 years ago.

I think they also shrunk their sizes.

[Ciderhillnh]

I have a cord jacket like that too...got it at Contempo Casuals when I was 17, Ive worn it EVERYWHERE and all the time...its been washed, crumpled up etc....still looks gorgeous and still get compliments on it.

[pisces2473]

Oh, in my previous post, I was talking about the Gap. Just for clarification.

An extra large in 1998 is WAY different than an extra large today. I don't get it.

[WorkInProgress]

I don't wash sweaters - it seems like their very nature would prevent withstanding multiple washings.

I wash some sweaters and dryclean others. And a bunch go multiple wearings before getting washed, unless they are actually dirty.

[weary]

I don't wash sweaters - it seems like their very nature would prevent withstanding multiple washings.

cold water, gentle cycle and lay flat to dry! works like a charm.

unless it's wool or cashmere. then, yeah - DON'T WASH or you will be very sad.

[weary]

I have a cord jacket like that too...got it at Contempo Casuals when I was 17, Ive worn it EVERYWHERE and all the time...its been washed, crumpled up etc....still looks gorgeous and still get compliments on it.

contempo casuals...what a blast from the past! i used to shop there in high school. are they still around? they certainly aren't on the east coast...at least i haven't seen them. i guess their equivalents out here are forever 21, wet seal, and the like.

[WorkInProgress]

An extra large in 1998 is WAY different than an extra large today. I don't get it.

I was reading an article just today that was saying that the averages sizes of clothing were going down, but also said that size varies by store and style (which we all alerady knew). (So, like a woman who used to be a size 10 might now be a 6.) Lemme see if I can find it.

Here we go: Faith-Based Sizing (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15319430/site/newsweek/)

[pisces2473]

I was reading an article just today that was saying that the averages sizes of clothing were going down, but also said that size varies by store and style (which we all alerady knew). (So, like a woman who used to be a size 10 might now be a 6.) Lemme see if I can find it.
Hmm, that's not the point I'm trying to make, haha.

An XL from the Gap in 1998 fit great! An XL from the Gap in 2006 wouldn't fit me. It's like they got smaller or something...

Oh and I mean, my clothes from 1998 Gap fit fine today, even though I've gained some weight. If I was to go in there today and get a jacket in an XL, it wouldn't fit.

[asm198]

I hate that women's sizes are just random numbers. It makes it such a pain to find clothing that fits, since you have to try on half a dozen various sizes to find what actually fits you. I wish it was like men's clothing. If you're a 32 waist, you find a pair of 32 waist pants and you're done.

[CTGirl]

I hate that women's sizes are just random numbers. It makes it such a pain to find clothing that fits, since you have to try on half a dozen various sizes to find what actually fits you. I wish it was like men's clothing. If you're a 32 waist, you find a pair of 32 waist pants and you're done.

Ugh, I completely agree! I can go from an XS to an XL and from a size 4 to a size 10 depending what stores I go to, it's ridiculous :googly:

[pisces2473]

I hate that women's sizes are just random numbers. It makes it such a pain to find clothing that fits, since you have to try on half a dozen various sizes to find what actually fits you. I wish it was like men's clothing. If you're a 32 waist, you find a pair of 32 waist pants and you're done.
The article says that! LOL

[WorkInProgress]

Hmm, that's not the point I'm trying to make, haha.

An XL from the Gap in 1998 fit great! An XL from the Gap in 2006 wouldn't fit me. It's like they got smaller or something...

Yeah, that's what the article was saying. (And I kinda makes sense. If you purchase patterns, you have to buy the size based on measurements. Like, seriously, when I was an off-the-rack 6, I'd have to buy for a 12 so that the clothes would fit. Because apparently, women's sizes used to pegged to measurements, and now it's more or less "whatever.")

[weary]

I hate that women's sizes are just random numbers. It makes it such a pain to find clothing that fits, since you have to try on half a dozen various sizes to find what actually fits you. I wish it was like men's clothing. If you're a 32 waist, you find a pair of 32 waist pants and you're done.

ha...i used to buy men's jeans for that very reason. especially years ago when i liked my waist on pants a little lower (before they made almost all of them like that like they do now) b/c of my broad hips. it was perfect.

[pisces2473]

I'm sure that now, I'd have to wear like a 5X or something, if the Gap went that high. LOL

[SmilesSoSweet]

Ugh, I completely agree! I can go from an XS to an XL and from a size 4 to a size 10 depending what stores I go to, it's ridiculous :googly:

I hate how I'm a size 14 in Lane Bryant clothing, but if I go to Old Navy I have to be a 16 or 18. Um I've lost 33 lbs. WTF is my real size! I wouldn't mind shopping for pants and jeans like guys do. So much easier!

And it's no wonder a guy can be in and out of a clothing store a lot quicker than girls. :rolleyes:

[CTGirl]

Once in a while, you can find clothes that are sized in the "european" way, and then they're by waist size, not arbitrary made-up numbers, but it's pretty rare.......stupid americans screwing things up :googly:

[weary]

Once in a while, you can find clothes that are sized in the "european" way, and then they're by waist size, not arbitrary made-up numbers, but it's pretty rare.......stupid americans screwing things up :googly:

triscuits and now this. yeah, new BFF for real. :razz:

(patiently awaiting the flames...)

[WorkInProgress]

Once in a while, you can find clothes that are sized in the "european" way, and then they're by waist size, not arbitrary made-up numbers, but it's pretty rare.......stupid americans screwing things up :googly:

Which is great, if the article of clothing is actually supposed to fit at the waist, which isn't the case for a lot of pants, skirts, etc. I think most things just need to be tried on anyway, at least for me.

[CTGirl]

triscuits and now this. yeah, new BFF for real. :razz:

(patiently awaiting the flames...)

heck yeah. And I doubt there will be flaming from this, but if there is, bring it on!

And happy 1,000 posts weary!

[pisces2473]

I hate how I'm a size 14 in Lane Bryant clothing, but if I go to Old Navy I have to be a 16 or 18. Um I've lost 33 lbs. WTF is my real size! I wouldn't mind shopping for pants and jeans like guys do. So much easier!

And it's no wonder a guy can be in and out of a clothing store a lot quicker than girls. :rolleyes:
Awww, that's how I am. You just gotta roll with it, since they are different companies.

CT--I can't do waist sizes b/c I have hips! LOL

[weary]

Which is great, if the article of clothing is actually supposed to fit at the waist, which isn't the case for a lot of pants, skirts, etc. I think most things just need to be tried on anyway, at least for me.

i dunno. men's shirts have the same sort of thing for their pants/waists..it's just for necks and arms. their whole sizing just seems so much easier and more logical. the only logically sized article of clothing for women is bras, IMO.

[WorkInProgress]

the only logically sized article of clothing for women is bras, IMO.

Totally agree with you on this one.

[weary]

And happy 1,000 posts weary!

COOL BEANS! i didn't even notice!!!

thanks! :)

[WorkInProgress]

i dunno. men's shirts have the same sort of thing for their pants/waists..it's just for necks and arms. their whole sizing just seems so much easier and more logical. the only logically sized article of clothing for women is bras, IMO.

Their sweaters and knit shirts don't--just dress shirts. (And it's so much easier to buy clothes for men, in general, I agree.)

[CTGirl]

CT--I can't do waist sizes b/c I have hips! LOL

True, true, as do I, and you are all correct in saying that it does make clothes shopping more difficult, but in the jeans that I am referencing in particular, they gave a waist size, but did actually fit the hips too, the waist size number was just for reference.

[weary]

True, true, as do I, and you are all correct in saying that it does make clothes shopping more difficult, but in the jeans that I am referencing in particular, they gave a waist size, but did actually fit the hips too, the waist size number was just for reference.

shout-out to all the hippy girls. i feel your pain. we need our own brand or something. ass-girls have apple-bottoms & j-lo. can we get a 'handles' or something in our honor? :rolleyes:

[CTGirl]

ass-girls have apple-bottoms


It took a man to realize that we needed pants for girls with a little junk in the trunk :googly:

[WorkInProgress]

shout-out to all the hippy girls. i feel your pain. we need our own brand or something. ass-girls have apple-bottoms & j-lo. can we get a 'handles' or something in our honor? :rolleyes:

My college roomie was quite hippy. Eensiest waist, but girl had her some good birthing hips, which necessitated a larger size (seriously, like 4 sizes difference between her waist and her hips). She had the hardest time finding pants.

[weary]

My college roomie was quite hippy. Eensiest waist, but girl had her some good birthing hips, which necessitated a larger size (seriously, like 4 sizes difference between her waist and her hips). She had the hardest time finding pants.

LMAO. that's it! that's the brand!

BIRTHING HIPS.

i can see it now...

a ha ha ha haha ha haha!!!

[WorkInProgress]

It took a man to realize that we needed pants for girls with a little junk in the trunk :googly:
Well, he was the one looking. :razz:

[pisces2473]

I have an ass AND hips. Boobs too. I'm a walking nightmare to the "trendy" fashion designers.

Can't wear guys pants b/c the rise is TOO low in the back. Perfect in the front though!

[wordsmith]

I thought that was your first trip to NYC?

I agree, I wouldn't spend $50 on a thin sweater. To me, sweaters should be THICK and WARM!

Most of my sweaters are wool fisherman's sweaters from Irish import shops, like this. I wear sweaters for their warmth.

[embrassezla]

I'm wearing a t-shirt today with a decal and a caption underneath, but the caption falls on my boobs in such a way that it's basically in a shadow, so all day people have been staring into my chest saying "what's that say?" too bad it's a joke from a really obscure web comic that no one gets anyways.

even girls' "babydoll tees" don't work on girls with boobs, apparently.

[pisces2473]

I'm wearing a t-shirt today with a decal and a caption underneath, but the caption falls on my boobs in such a way that it's basically in a shadow, so all day people have been staring into my chest saying "what's that say?" too bad it's a joke from a really obscure web comic that no one gets anyways.

even girls' "babydoll tees" don't work on girls with boobs, apparently.
Is it Teen Girl Squad???

[embrassezla]

Is it Teen Girl Squad???
HAHA, no, I don't know what that is!

It's Married to the Sea.

[wordsmith]

shout-out to all the hippy girls. i feel your pain. we need our own brand or something. ass-girls have apple-bottoms & j-lo. can we get a 'handles' or something in our honor? :rolleyes:


I'm an ass girl AND a hippy girl. :rolleyes:

[Ciderhillnh]

I have hips and a butt as well....this is why I ADORE Lucky jeans!! They arent set like womens sizes 6, 8, 10.....they are done by waist size....so 29, 30, 31. And they have a bit of stretch, but not so much that they lose their shape after a few hours or after one wearing.

Plus they are slimming and make EVERYONE look great. They are expensive, but they have 3 sales a year. I got $136 jeans for $69 at their last sale......

[pisces2473]

HAHA, no, I don't know what that is!

It's Married to the Sea.
GOOGLE IT. You will love it.

[embrassezla]

I have a pair of Seven jeans that stretched out so much in the waist after wearing them for 30mins that I now need a belt. The jeans I'm wearing now did that too...lame.

[embrassezla]

GOOGLE IT. You will love it.
Mine too!


bloopeee

[pisces2473]

I have hips and a butt as well....this is why I ADORE Lucky jeans!! They arent set like womens sizes 6, 8, 10.....they are done by waist size....so 29, 30, 31. And they have a bit of stretch, but not so much that they lose their shape after a few hours or after one wearing.

Plus they are slimming and make EVERYONE look great. They are expensive, but they have 3 sales a year. I got $136 jeans for $69 at their last sale......
What about hips? They fit over hips even if your hips are a lot bigger than your waist?

Oh I just went to their website. I love how the largest they go to in women's is a 14, but the biggest in men's is a 40...and XXL.

[wordsmith]

I really just won't pay those prices for denim, and high-end jeans seldom come in true plus sizes, anyway. I know Lucky doesn't.

[pisces2473]

I really just won't pay those prices for denim, and high-end jeans seldom come in true plus sizes, anyway. I know Lucky doesn't.
Exactly. No matter how much weight I lose, I think I will need at LEAST a 14. It's just my bone structure. Most designer type clothes either don't come in a 14, or the 14's run small.

I love how it's OK for a guy to be bigger, but not a girl.

[embrassezla]

my issue is trying to find pants with a 36" inseam.

[wordsmith]

Exactly. No matter how much weight I lose, I think I will need at LEAST a 14. It's just my bone structure. Most designer type clothes either don't come in a 14, or the 14's run small.

I love how it's OK for a guy to be bigger, but not a girl.

Unless my pelvis is broken, bone fragments are removed, and reset, I'll never stretch anything smaller than a 16 across my hips. I went from kids' sizes to a 16 in junior high, when my hips broadened.

[pisces2473]

Unless my pelvis is broken, bone fragments are removed, and reset, I'll never stretch anything smaller than a 16 across my hips. I went from kids' sizes to a 16 in junior high, when my hips broadened.
Yeah pretty much me too...

I love when people say they have hips, but are built like sticks. Those aren't hips, sweeties. Hips are somehing that you can actually rest your hands on, in that indentation at your waistline.

[wordsmith]

People's perceptions of a particular build are always interesting.

I was talking with somebody the other day about women professing to have "ghetto booty" who do not have large asses in any way, shape, or form. My sister in law is one.

[Ciderhillnh]

Yes they fit over hips! My hips arent close to my waist either…and these are really the only jeans I have found that fit me properly and don’t bulge or expose my butt like other jeans that supposedly fit will.

My friend who NEVER finds pants that work for her (she is very boxy) went with me, and she tried on probably 10 pairs, found one that worked for her, gave her shape, slimmed her down and now they are her favorite pants.

I have the same issues with pants…I have a long lean torso, but short legs and hips….I can wear anything from a size 2 - 12 depending on the store, cut and type of pants. It sucks…..but once I find somewhere that has something that works, I go back and keep buying.

That’s why I was so excited about Lucky. Sure the first pair I bought I paid $136…..but once I heard about the sale…I can wait until they are having a sale and get 2 pairs for the price of one (just about)

[pisces2473]

People's perceptions of a particular build are always interesting.

I was talking with somebody the other day about women professing to have "ghetto booty" who do not have large asses in any way, shape, or form. My sister in law is one.
LOL seriously. Having a butt is one thing. An ass is something else. A ghetto booty is quite another. I'd say I'm between an ass and a ghetto booty.

Just because people have some fat/muscle/etc around their gluteus maximus region does NOT mean they have a ghetto booty! You're supposed to have some padding there!

[wordsmith]

LOL seriously. Having a butt is one thing. An ass is something else. A ghetto booty is quite another. I'd say I'm between an ass and a ghetto booty.

Just because people have some fat/muscle/etc around their gluteus maximus region does NOT mean they have a ghetto booty! You're supposed to have some padding there!

Yup, women butts aren't usually flat. My mom's is, and she hates it. She calls it "old man" ass.

[pisces2473]

Yup, women butts aren't usually flat. My mom's is, and she hates it. She calls it "old man" ass.
Awww, my grandpa really has NO ass. It's flat. :(

[embrassezla]

I have no bum, and I call it "droopy butt", because it doesn't fill out the pants so they just kind of hang back there :/

[weary]

i once went on a date w/ a guy who's ass was so flat it was INVERTED. the material on the back of his pants would literally flap in the wind if he was standing up. poor guy.

[wordsmith]

I have no bum, and I call it "droopy butt", because it doesn't fill out the pants so they just kind of hang back there :/

I can't imagine a world where I have extra material of any kind in the back of my drawers. This is inconceivable to me.

[pisces2473]

I can't imagine a world where I have extra material of any kind in the back of my drawers. This is inconceivable to me.
Hahahahaha, I KNOW!!! I think I would think something was wrong!

[embrassezla]

I can't imagine a world where I have extra material of any kind in the back of my drawers. This is inconceivable to me.
LOL, well everyone is made differently. I was coined "droopy butt" in college when my roommates saw me wearing men's boxer shorts. Now those things REALLY droop!

[CTGirl]

I can't imagine a world where I have extra material of any kind in the back of my drawers. This is inconceivable to me.

Same here, that tends to be the one place my pants are the tightest. I once had to go through all my pants/skirts/etc and get rid of a bunch cuz my ass had gotten so much bigger, lol, which upset me slightly, till an old friend of mine from college (male) while visiting me, said "your ass has gotten significantly better since college" :huge:

[mishl982]

I have no bum, and I call it "droopy butt", because it doesn't fill out the pants so they just kind of hang back there :/
Mine too! I have asian ass!

It's hard finding pants that fit because
a. I have no hips
b. I have no ass
c. I am short!
d. I have a belly

So everything I try on ends up being tight in the stomach if I want it to fit right in my butt and hips, or too big in the hip/butt region if I don't want my stomach to be cut off. OH and in either situation the pants are too long. And petite sizes are too short. :madder:

[wordsmith]

Same here, that tends to be the one place my pants are the tightest. I once had to go through all my pants/skirts/etc and get rid of a bunch cuz my ass had gotten so much bigger, lol, which upset me slightly, till an old friend of mine from college (male) while visiting me, said "your ass has gotten significantly better since college" :huge:

That's the thing...guys see "better," I just see "bigger." Perception is amazing. :rolleyes:

[embrassezla]

i dunno, i kinda appreciate it when guys remark that they like a girl with some jiggle. makes me feel less pressured to look like a ruler.

[weary]

i dunno, i kinda appreciate it when guys remark that they like a girl with some jiggle. makes me feel less pressured to look like a ruler.

"ya jingling baby, go 'head baby!"

(flashback to old L.L...)

[meatwad]

Dude. Everyone's talking about sexy boots and asses. How the hell am I supposed to get work done!?!?!?!?!

[pisces2473]

Dude. Everyone's talking about sexy boots and asses. How the hell am I supposed to get work done!?!?!?!?!
We're talking about footwear and donkeys, you perv.

[WorkInProgress]

Dude. Everyone's talking about sexy boots and asses. How the hell am I supposed to get work done!?!?!?!?!
You're not; it's a conspiracy. :razz:

[meatwad]

We're talking about footwear and donkeys, you perv.

I am a perv. So what were you doing with the donkeys? :eek:

[meatwad]

You're not; it's a conspiracy. :razz:

I need to get laid soon. Is it obvious yet? :huge:

[pisces2473]

I am a perv. So what were you doing with the donkeys? :eek:
Riding them, DUH!

lol