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PenforPrez
01-11-2007, 10:48 PM
In order to acheive its goal of 40,000 coffee shops, Starbucks is entering the Indian market in a three-way partnership, with plans to eventually build 1000 shops in India.

My advice to India: Just say no!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=avPM3DpuUMik&refer=home

Paul

SpaceMonkey
01-11-2007, 11:13 PM
Okay.

xtraletters.

CTGirl
01-12-2007, 07:55 AM
Starbucks is a great company, who happens to treat it's employees quite well, so I dont have any problems with them, and say if Indians are interested, then great, go for it!

J-girl
01-12-2007, 09:36 AM
Next time I go to India, I am going to order a chai latte from Starbucks

Winter Storm
01-12-2007, 10:00 AM
Pffff. There goes India. :rolleyes:

PenforPrez
01-12-2007, 10:07 AM
Pffff. There goes India. :rolleyes:

Yeah I know, all the cute elephants and everything. :)

arrow
01-12-2007, 10:12 AM
Next time I go to India, I am going to order a chai latte from Starbucks

:haha:

I kind of agree with CTgirl. Just because it's a giant corporation doesn't mean it makes a poor product or treats its workers like crap. Sure, I don't like that Starbucks runs the small coffeeshops out of business, but even so, small coffeeshops are still around today despite Starbucks' proliferation. If anything, Starbucks has made coffee drinks more popular in the US, which is good for the local shops, too. I just hate their prices, and their food isn't the best. But the coffee is decent, and they do pay their workers decent wages, give them scholarships for school, and they even have a union.

That's all. But yeah, Starbucks is going to have to alter their chai tea in India.

cache
01-12-2007, 10:38 AM
Starbucks is a great company, who happens to treat it's employees quite well, so I dont have any problems with them, and say if Indians are interested, then great, go for it!

Yeah, but anyone who sells coffee not made by Foldgers or Maxwell House is going to have to hear it from Paul...:p

J-girl
01-12-2007, 03:49 PM
Trust me the cost of one coffee cup would probably buy a whole month's groceries for some families in India. So I doubt this will create any ripples in the independent chai wallah stalls on the side of the streets.

Besides a lot of franchises exist in India already and that doesnt threaten its old world culture in any sense.

PenforPrez
01-12-2007, 05:36 PM
Yeah, but anyone who sells coffee not made by Foldgers or Maxwell House is going to have to hear it from Paul...:p

I like indy coffee shops; have one in particular I frequent. I just don't like what Starbucks represents. Yes, they do have incredible benefits. But there's always two sides to any story.

Paul

meatwad
01-12-2007, 05:44 PM
Trust me the cost of one coffee cup would probably buy a whole month's groceries for some families in India. So I doubt this will create any ripples in the independent chai wallah stalls on the side of the streets.

Besides a lot of franchises exist in India already and that doesnt threaten its old world culture in any sense.

Anyone getting a craving for a Chicken Maharaja Mac?

http://www.mcdonaldsindia.com/ourfood/nonveg/chicken_maharajamac.html

EmberMae
01-12-2007, 07:35 PM
Man, I want to go to McDonald's India so bad. A whole vegetarian menu? OMFG amazing. I <3 you India.

CTGirl
01-14-2007, 09:04 PM
I like indy coffee shops; have one in particular I frequent. I just don't like what Starbucks represents. Yes, they do have incredible benefits. But there's always two sides to any story.

Paul

What does Starbucks "represent" ???

To me, they represent fancy coffee beverages and an example (according to my field) of how to run a solid business.

Xander
01-14-2007, 09:40 PM
What does Starbucks "represent" ???

To me, they represent fancy coffee beverages and an example (according to my field) of how to run a solid business.
CTGirl, you didn't hear? If a company is successful in giving the public a product they want, they magically turn evil... you didn't get the memo?

CTGirl
01-15-2007, 07:29 AM
CTGirl, you didn't hear? If a company is successful in giving the public a product they want, they magically turn evil... you didn't get the memo?

Oh right, I'm sorry, I must have forgotten that competition amongst businesses is the basis for our economy :p

winneythepooh7
01-15-2007, 08:23 AM
Starbucks is a great company, who happens to treat it's employees quite well, so I dont have any problems with them, and say if Indians are interested, then great, go for it!


I know that people bash companies like Starbucks all the time, but hello, they wouldn't be doing as well as they are if there wasn't such a demand. Tons of people must be buying their products for them to be able to expand into India.

Xander
01-15-2007, 07:38 PM
Oh right, I'm sorry, I must have forgotten that competition amongst businesses is the basis for our economy :p
Actually, one of my friends argued with me about how competition is bad... to the point where she was visibly angry and yelling. Yikes. I couldn't explain to her how competition isn't about screwing other people over, but about doing better, innovating, and not settling for "good enough"--the reason why we're out of caves and browsing the internet, curing diseases, etc. Oh well.

I know that people bash companies like Starbucks all the time, but hello, they wouldn't be doing as well as they are if there wasn't such a demand. Tons of people must be buying their products for them to be able to expand into India.
What?! *plug ears* la la la la la la...

;)

Prediction: someone will say Starbucks forces out the "little man," destroys small nations, and eats babies.

CTGirl
01-15-2007, 07:53 PM
Prediction: someone will say Starbucks forces out the "little man," destroys small nations, and eats babies.

I understand the "feeling sorry for the little guy" thing, but if the little guy is so great, why arent people going there?

It's like Winney said, if India didnt want Starbucks, they wouldnt be going there.

wordsmith
01-16-2007, 09:16 AM
I understand the "feeling sorry for the little guy" thing, but if the little guy is so great, why arent people going there?

Could be that they're not as good/convenient/reasonably priced (doubtful on the last one, most of the time), but also heavily weighing in is the fact that we're largely conditioned as a whole to value and trust a brand over something that doesn't come with a famous label.

CTGirl
01-17-2007, 06:26 PM
Could be that they're not as good/convenient/reasonably priced (doubtful on the last one, most of the time), but also heavily weighing in is the fact that we're largely conditioned as a whole to value and trust a brand over something that doesn't come with a famous label.

Absolutely, we put more trust in bigger companies. Does that mean the bigger companies are in the wrong? I'd say no, cuz they're just working the system that we've established for them.

If the little guys can't compete (and some of them can very well) then they die out, that's just the nature of the system right?