Soy Milk

[BadKitty]

I am not sure if this has been asked before (I am sorry of it has), but what's the verdict on soy milk?

I've read so many contradictory reports on whether it's good for you or not, my head is spinning.

[AshleyJordan]

I think it's better for you than cow milk, esp. for those of us who don't do to well with dairy . . .

[weary]

my personal verdict...meh. it's aaiight. i like almond milk better. if you're looking for an alternative, i'd suggest any of these milks:

almond
coconut
goat
rice

[embrassezla]

Assuming we're talking about non-dairy milks, I prefer Almond Milk as well, only because I eat cereal every morning and also consume other soy products regularly. There is some evidence that TOO MUCH soy is not a good thing, so I switched from soy milk to almond, so that my regular cereal habit doesn't contain any soy products.

[mishl982]

ooh almond milk sounds yummy!

probably not rice milk though - I eat enough rice as it is!!

[BadKitty]

Yeah, I like Soy Milk (you have to choose the brand and type carefuly), but there are reports of it containing too much estrogen and an igridient causing cancer (everything causes cancer these days, doesn't it).

I am also considering looking into Kefir.

[weary]

ooh almond milk sounds yummy!

probably not rice milk though - I eat enough rice as it is!!
yeah, almond is very tasty. not a fan of rice milk either. i like horchata though...so i guess i'm just weird.

em...i am getting ready to try some nayonnaise (going grocery shopping this weekend). *fingers crossed*

[embrassezla]

em...i am getting ready to try some nayonnaise (going grocery shopping this weekend). *fingers crossed*
Oh, good luck! I haven't had it because I'm not a mayo person anyway but let me know if it's any good. I haven't had much luck with soy substitutes for dairy, with the sole exception of low fat, unsweetened soy milk. Soy yogurt and cheese are both dreadful.

[weary]

Oh, good luck! I haven't had it because I'm not a mayo person anyway but let me know if it's any good. I haven't had much luck with soy substitutes for dairy, with the sole exception of low fat, unsweetened soy milk. Soy yogurt and cheese are both dreadful.
thanks. yeah, i'm not either, which is why it's taken forever to run out of the mayo in the fridge to even need to replace it. we'll see how it goes. i'm really not very big on substitutes in general. i'd almost rather go w/o considering how much crap has to be put in a lot of sustitutes to make them taste the same as the real deal. but i'm not eating cereal with water, LOL.

[BadKitty]

So, I guess it's good in moderation (soy milk/soy products in general).

[weary]

So, I guess it's good in moderation (soy milk/soy products in general).
this is what i've heard.

[wordsmith]

It's okay, they're all okay, but I'm a milk drinker. I'm opposed to the prices put on substitute products, anyway (as well as with most if not all organics). They def. don't encourage MY purchase.

[BadKitty]

It's okay, they're all okay, but I'm a milk drinker. I'm opposed to the prices put on substitute products, anyway (as well as with most if not all organics). They def. don't encourage MY purchase.


Yeah, it's unfortunate. I am trying to eat healthier and organic, but it is can be so expensive. There are certain things that should be eaten orgaic only (too much crap in them otherwise), but with others it's not a big deal if you buy them say from WalMart.

[Kitty]

I love soy milk..but that's mostly because I absolutely HATE regular milk. I get the fortified, low-fat vanilla kind and it's yummy. I always buy organic soy, too, because there's a lot of genetic engineering that goes on with soy..which I want to avoid at all costs.

[AshleyJordan]

i'm really not very big on substitutes in general.
you're telling me. i've been trying to choke down sandwiches made with soy turkey all week :eek:

[weary]

you're telling me. i've been trying to choke down sandwiches made with soy turkey all week :eek:
blech! i ain't going that far.

[mishl982]

blech! i ain't going that far.
Yea, if it doesn't taste good, no matter how healthy it is for me, I"m not going near it!

[AshleyJordan]

i ended up throwing that sh*t out. i know you're not supposed to waste food, but i decided that wasn't even food.

[BadKitty]

blech! i ain't going that far.


ya'll crack me up. Yeah. certain thing are just... too much.

[Kitty]

I like soy turkey. But I'm a veggie.

[weary]

i ended up throwing that sh*t out. i know you're not supposed to waste food, but i decided that wasn't even food.
ha ha. yeah, when i read your post i totally thought of a show where some health nut wanted to have a tofuerky for thanksgiving and the whole family was pissed at her. LOL.

[embrassezla]

I always buy organic soy, too, because there's a lot of genetic engineering that goes on with soy..which I want to avoid at all costs.
Do you avoid HFCS as well?

[embrassezla]

Soy salami is actually really really good. I haven't tried turkey.

[Kitty]

Do you avoid HFCS as well?

I'm not really actively looking for it, but I think I probably avoid most of it just in the types of foods I eat. Although, I'm sure it's in stuff I'm not even aware of.

[SpaceMonkey]

It's okay, they're all okay, but I'm a milk drinker. I'm opposed to the prices put on substitute products, anyway (as well as with most if not all organics). They def. don't encourage MY purchase.

Seriously. Soy beans are dirt cheap. Soy milk is expensive as hell for some reason.

[BadKitty]

Do you avoid HFCS as well?

What is that?

[Kitty]

Seriously. Soy beans are dirt cheap. Soy milk is expensive as hell for some reason.

However, it keeps for like 5 times as long.

[WorkInProgress]

Seriously. Soy beans are dirt cheap. Soy milk is expensive as hell for some reason.

Economy of scale? Pretty packaging? Because they can?

[weary]

What is that?
HFCS=High Fructose Corn Syrup

[BadKitty]

HFCS=High Fructose Corn Syrup


oh, that's right. I've read about it.

[weary]

However, it keeps for like 5 times as long.
until you open it. i always found that funny. the package says good for like a year. but it also says good for like 5-7 DAYS after opening. LOL.

[Kitty]

until you open it. i always found that funny. the package says good for like a year. but it also says good for like 5-7 DAYS after opening. LOL.

Really? I just keep drinking it until the expiration date..lol..I've seriously drank it months from opening it. It's still good!

[weary]

Really? I just keep drinking it until the expiration date..lol..I've seriously drank it months from opening it. It's still good!
:eek:
that's funny!
i wonder if i've been wasting mine/rushing through it, or if you've been eating rotten soymilk?!

[Kitty]

:eek:
that's funny!
i wonder if i've been wasting mine/rushing through it, or if you've been eating rotten soymilk?!

I don't know!! I've honestly never noticed anything saying it's only good for x amount of days after opening. Im going to go look.. This is funny.

It has always tasted the same to me..and I've never gotten sick or anything. i've been doing this for years. Oh well!

[wordsmith]

Economy of scale? Pretty packaging? Because they can?

dingdingdingdingding...

[embrassezla]

I'm not really actively looking for it, but I think I probably avoid most of it just in the types of foods I eat. Although, I'm sure it's in stuff I'm not even aware of.
It's in almost every packaged food that isn't organic.

[mishl982]

Hey if it still tastes good and you have gotten sick from it, who cares? :p

[weary]

I don't know!! I've honestly never noticed anything saying it's only good for x amount of days after opening. Im going to go look.. This is funny.

It has always tasted the same to me..and I've never gotten sick or anything. i've been doing this for years. Oh well!
maybe it depends on the brand. but i seem to remember it saying on all the ones i've tried. on my almond milk too. it usually says it near the opening, or next to where it says "refigerate after opening".

[weary]

Hey if it still tastes good and you have gotten sick from it, who cares? :p
true.

[embrassezla]

I drink past the expiration as well. Just smell it first - you'll know if it's gone bad.

[Kitty]

OMG..you're right. In small print at the bottom it says to drink within 10 days of opening. LOL...I'm going to pretend I never saw it and continue on drinking my month old soy milk.

[weary]

OMG..you're right. In small print at the bottom it says to drink within 10 days of opening. LOL...I'm going to pretend I never saw it and continue on drinking my month old soy milk.
aaah ha ha ha. well, you've probably built up an immunity now anyhow. ;)

[Kitty]

It's in almost every packaged food that isn't organic.
yeah, I buy almost everything organic..but I'm sure it's in stuff I'm not aware of.

[Kitty]

I drink past the expiration as well. Just smell it first - you'll know if it's gone bad.

yeah, it always smells and tastes fine. So it will smell/taste bad if it's rotten?

[embrassezla]

yeah, I buy almost everything organic..but I'm sure it's in stuff I'm not aware of.
Well, it can't(shouldn't, anyway) be in anything organic, so you're safe there.

[embrassezla]

yeah, it always smells and tastes fine. So it will smell/taste bad if it's rotten?
Yep.


lalalala

[Kitty]

Well, it can't(shouldn't, anyway) be in anything organic, so you're safe there.

I wasn't really into organic stuff until about 2 years ago..so I'm sure I've ingested a shitload of it.

[embrassezla]

I wasn't really into organic stuff until about 2 years ago..so I'm sure I've ingested a shitload of it.
Well, you & everyone else in the US, so don't feel so bad :)

[weary]

kitty & em - have either of you read the omnivore's dilemma?

[embrassezla]

kitty & em - have either of you read the omnivore's dilemma?
Someone else just recommended that, I'd like to read it. Good?

[weary]

Someone else just recommended that, I'd like to read it. Good?
i'm not finished w/ it (it's THICk)...but, YES. makes me never want to eat corn again (and i hardly ever eat now...at least i thought i didn't). read it.

[wordsmith]

Corn is my God. Seriously. I live in the Sweet Corn Capital. Queen and everything.

[embrassezla]

i'm not finished w/ it (it's THICk)...but, YES. makes me never want to eat corn again (and i hardly ever eat now...at least i thought i didn't). read it.
OH, I'm already convinced of that, hence my crusade against HFCS. But yeah, I think I'll put that on my reading list, post Greece trip. I am not allowing myself to buy ANY new books until after Greece, because I should really be spending all my free time learning - wait for it - Greek.

[weary]

OH, I'm already convinced of that, hence my crusade against HFCS. But yeah, I think I'll put that on my reading list, post Greece trip. I am not allowing myself to buy ANY new books until after Greece, because I should really be spending all my free time learning - wait for it - Greek.
ha ha ha. i'll loan you the book when you get back (i should be done by then) in exchange for some greek lessons for my trip this summer. ;)

if you're a word geek like me (paging my moonsisters words & WIP), you might like this other book i just picked up:
i always look up the word "egregious"

i know...i'm a dork. :rolleyes:

[wordsmith]

I love the word "egregious."

[WorkInProgress]

I love the word "egregious." Now that IS fun.

[weary]

I love the word "egregious."
i know, right? i picked the book b/c that word was in the title, not even know what it was about. a book about all about words! ha!

[WorkInProgress]

i always look up the word "egregious"

That's the title?

Just looked it up: OOOOOOOH. Fun times.

I'm still reading How To Read Literature Like A Professor. It's fun, but not terribly enlightening if you've already taken several good English classes.

Chapter titles include:
Every Trip Is a Quest (Except When It's Not)
Nice to Eat with You: Acts of Communion
Nice to Eat You: Acts of Vampires
When in Doubt, It's From Shakespeare...
...Or the Bible
Is That a Symbol?
It's All Political
Yes, She's a Christ Figure, Too
It's All About Sex...
...Except Sex
He's Blind for a Reason, You Know

[weary]

That's the title?
YUP!

extraletters.

[embrassezla]

ha ha ha. i'll loan you the book when you get back (i should be done by then) in exchange for some greek lessons for my trip this summer. ;)
OH GEEZ! I totally forgot that you're going too! Dude, I've got about 4 books for you and 4 CDs.

[wordsmith]

That reminds me of how heatherf liked the book "Eats, shoots, and leaves."

[Kitty]

i'm not finished w/ it (it's THICk)...but, YES. makes me never want to eat corn again (and i hardly ever eat now...at least i thought i didn't). read it.

Yeah, I feel you on the corn thing. I've done a lot of research on that topic...

[BadKitty]

Yeah, I feel you on the corn thing. I've done a lot of research on that topic...

What's wrong with corn.

[WorkInProgress]

That reminds me of how heatherf liked the book "Eats, shoots, and leaves."

It's another fun one. I got it for my birthday last year.

EDIT: Sorry, I totally forgot this was the soy milk thread.

[embrassezla]

What's wrong with corn.
In the US, corn syrup is used as a sweetener, and added to foods that don't even particularly need sweetened (read: all of them). Most corn in the US is genetically modified, which means that pretty much everyone here is consuming genetically modified food which has not been proven safe.

There's more to it (a lot more, actually), but that's mainly why I try to avoid it.

[weary]

I gather you live outside the US, so it's not really a concern for you most likely. But here, corn syrup is used as a sweetener, and added to foods that don't even particularly need sweetened (read: all of them). Most corn in the US is genetically modified, which means that pretty much everyone here is consuming genetically modified food which has not been proven safe.
yup. also, lots of livestock are fed GMO corn, so if you eat meat, you're eating more corn...basically.

[Kitty]

In the US, corn syrup is used as a sweetener, and added to foods that don't even particularly need sweetened (read: all of them). Most corn in the US is genetically modified, which means that pretty much everyone here is consuming genetically modified food which has not been proven safe.

There's more to it (a lot more, actually), but that's mainly why I try to avoid it.

Yeah, a lot of shady business practices as well.

[embrassezla]

yup. also, lots of livestock are fed GMO corn, so if you eat meat, you're eating more corn...basically.
Yes, thank you, excellent point.

[weary]

OH GEEZ! I totally forgot that you're going too! Dude, I've got about 4 books for you and 4 CDs.
yay! i haven't done a lick of research lately. my friend might even be backing out now...but i'll still go by myself if it comes to that.

[BadKitty]

In the US, corn syrup is used as a sweetener, and added to foods that don't even particularly need sweetened (read: all of them). Most corn in the US is genetically modified, which means that pretty much everyone here is consuming genetically modified food which has not been proven safe.

There's more to it (a lot more, actually), but that's mainly why I try to avoid it.


Aren't there a lot of other genetically modified foods out there too? I have been reading some pretty scary things lately.

[Kitty]

Aren't there a lot of other genetically modified foods out there too? I have been reading some pretty scary things lately.

I think corn is probably the biggest one..and then soy.

[embrassezla]

Aren't there a lot of other genetically modified foods out there too? I have been reading some pretty scary things lately.
Don't know - labels aren't required to specify that a food is genetically modified. :eek:.

[Kitty]

Don't know - labels aren't required to specify that a food is genetically modified. :eek:.

That's the main reason I started buying everything organic.

[embrassezla]

That's the main reason I started buying everything organic.
For me as well. Although you still have to trust the organic companies are being truthful, but at some point you don't have a choice but to take the path of least risk.

[weary]

Don't know - labels aren't required to specify that a food is genetically modified. :eek:.
yes, this is probably the only thing that i really like about shopping at TJ's (i'm really not impressed by them otherwise)...they always put when NOT GMO'ed on their labels. and organic, when applicable, of course. i like that.

[Kitty]

For me as well. Although you still have to trust the organic companies are being truthful, but at some point you don't have a choice but to take the path of least risk.

I also look at it as supporting a belief/way of life. I definitely don't trust the FDA with the genetically modified stuff, either. They're too closely tied with the top companies that GM.

[embrassezla]

they always put when NOT GMO'ed on their labels. and organic, when applicable, of course. i like that.
Just to be cynical, there's nothing in place to verify that something that says "NOT GMO" really isn't, though, so it doesn't particularly tell you anything. At least with "organic", there are rules in place for when such a label can legitimately be used.

[embrassezla]

I definitely don't trust the FDA with the genetically modified stuff, either. They're too closely tied with the top companies that GM.
Exactly. It benefits the US to keep using HFCS as a sweetener, so they'll do so. And if putting "GMO" on the label of EVERYTHING that contains it was mandatory, some people wouldn't buy that stuff, and that'd threaten the whole establishment. Tsk tsk, can't be having that.

[weary]

Just to be cynical, there's nothing in place to verify that something that says "NOT GMO" really isn't, though, so it doesn't particularly tell you anything. At least with "organic", there are rules in place for when such a label can legitimately be used.
i agree. but i don't really feel like anything can be trusted 100% just b/c there are rules set up governing it. so i make these purchases on hope/faith i guess.

[embrassezla]

i agree. but i don't really feel like anything can be trusted 100% just b/c there are rules set up governing it. so i make these purchases on hope/faith i guess.
I do as well. I support companies who's business practices are in line with what I believe. And I kinda just have to trust them to be forthcoming, at that point anyway.

[somnolence]

ha ha. yeah, when i read your post i totally thought of a show where some health nut wanted to have a tofuerky for thanksgiving and the whole family was pissed at her. LOL.

My mom made me a tofurkey for thanksgiving last year and it was sooooo goooood! She brushed it with apricot preserves mixed with a bit of soy sauce, wrapped it in foil and baked it. I ate it every day till it was gone and wouldn't let anyone else touch it. Man, I really want a tofurkey now.

I like soymilk too. Not the vanilla though. Plain is better. And I also love tofu and most meat substitutes. I like them more than actual meat. I guess I'm just strange.

[Kitty]

My mom made me a tofurkey for thanksgiving last year and it was sooooo goooood! She brushed it with apricot preserves mixed with a bit of soy sauce, wrapped it in foil and baked it. I ate it every day till it was gone and wouldn't let anyone else touch it. Man, I really want a tofurkey now.

I like soymilk too. Not the vanilla though. Plain is better. And I also love tofu and most meat substitutes. I like them more than actual meat. I guess I'm just strange.

You're not strange, I'm the same way!

I think I posted this already somewhere in this thread, but I also love tofurkey.

[wordsmith]

I only like tofu in its straight-up, tofu guise. Not when it's masquerading as burgers or brats or whatev.

[mishl982]

I'm not a big tofu person (it tastes like nothing to me) but won't pick it out if it's mixed in the food (like pad thai when it's red, or maybe it's dyed red....).

[Kitty]

I'm not a big tofu person (it tastes like nothing to me) but won't pick it out if it's mixed in the food (like pad thai when it's red, or maybe it's dyed red....).


haha..I think it just absorbs the pad thai saunce. That's kind of the point of tofu..it just absorbs whatever flavor/spice you add to it. That's why it can be turned into a billion things.

[EmberMae]

My mom made me a tofurkey for thanksgiving last year and it was sooooo goooood! She brushed it with apricot preserves mixed with a bit of soy sauce, wrapped it in foil and baked it. I ate it every day till it was gone and wouldn't let anyone else touch it. Man, I really want a tofurkey now.

I like soymilk too. Not the vanilla though. Plain is better. And I also love tofu and most meat substitutes. I like them more than actual meat. I guess I'm just strange.
Me too! I can't stand regular milk. It smells icky to me. I still don't drink soymilk straight up, but that's what I have in my cereal/oatmeal and what I bake with. Almond milk is pretty good too. I WILL drink Chocolate Almond Breeze straight. It's delicious. And very good heated up in the microwave for a few seconds.

I've never had a whole Tofurky because about half the people I talked to hated it and it's kind of big and expensive. That glaze sounds delicious though. I've had the Tofurky deli slices and sausages. The Italian sausages are good if you slice them and saute them in olive oil but eating them whole, the texture is kind of weird and hard to chew. I prefer Boca sausages. The deli slices are pretty good, and I think most soy deli slices are gross, the tofurky peppered ones are the only ones I'll eat. As a whole I love soy meats, and seitan. Seitan is awesome, but a PITA to make. Tofu, i had problems with at first but now I'll eat it depending on how it's cooked. I don't like baked tofu. The texture is better if you press and freeze it first. And it needs a good marinade.

[somnolence]

I've sliced up the Tufurkey Italian sausages before and used then in a lentil stew with fennel and carrots. It's very good that way too. :)

[hoodie]

I have GERD and for a while, it was so bad, my doc had me quit a bunch of different kinds of food, including dairy. So I started drinking soy milk. Now I'm hooked. I can have pretty much everything again, but I like vanilla soy milk better. I drink 8th Continent Light Vanilla. Love it. Only, Dominick's won't sell it anymore, which ticks me off. I still like regular milk, and will drink it, but I buy the soy kind.

Oh yeah, and like Kitty, I drink it way past exipration. I didn't know until I read this either, because it smells and tastes fine...mmm tasty expired soy milk. :p

[mishl982]

I bought Silk vanilla soymilk and tried it today with my cereal. It's pretty tasty! It was pretty sweet, but it's mostly the cereal. I'm trying a different kind of cereal tomorrow which is hopefully less sweet so we'll see how that goes.

At first I wasn't sure if I'd like it or not, until I realized I used to drink soy bean milk from the Asian grocery store a lot when I was younger. I loved that stuff!

Can you sub it for regular milk when cooking?

[embrassezla]

I bought Silk vanilla soymilk and tried it today with my cereal. It's pretty tasty! It was pretty sweet, but it's mostly the cereal. I'm trying a different kind of cereal tomorrow which is hopefully less sweet so we'll see how that goes.
Yeah, I've found that plain soymilk works better in cereal because the cereal is usually sweet enough by itself.

Can you sub it for regular milk when cooking?
If you mean baking, then yes, in general. I use it in pancakes, for instance. But I'd only sub it with unsweetened soy milk.

[wordsmith]

What's the price differential between milk and substitutes where you guys live, out of curiosity?

[embrassezla]

Good question - I'll check when I go shopping tonight. I don't remember the last time I bought regular milk.

[Kitty]

I also use soy milk to cook/bake..mostly because I don't ever have regular milk in the house. I honestly can't even remember the last time I bought regular milk.

[Kitty]

What's the price differential between milk and substitutes where you guys live, out of curiosity?

yeah, there's a lot of variables though. If I do buy milk, I buy the organic, no hormones, antibiotics, blah blah type of milk which is probably more costly than the other stuff. I'll look at prices next time I'm at whole foods.

[embrassezla]

yeah I was thinking I'd have to look at the prices for regular milk, organic milk, AND soy milk. Soy milk to regular milk doesn't seem like a proper comparison.

[EmberMae]

If I remember correctly, it's like $2.50 - $3.00 for a half gallon of soy or organic cow milk. I usualy buy both because my fiance likes the regular milk.

[cache]

I bought Silk vanilla soymilk and tried it today with my cereal. It's pretty tasty! It was pretty sweet, but it's mostly the cereal. I'm trying a different kind of cereal tomorrow which is hopefully less sweet so we'll see how that goes.

I use the vanilla soy milk in my morning fruit smoothies. The best smoothie is a mixed berry with the vanilla soy milk. Oh man. A berries and cream smoothie. I gulp those things down. I've even tried the Silk Very Vanilla one. It is pretty strong.

[chicagogirl]

I go with the Weston Price foundation - that how we've prepared and used foods for ages is the healthiest way. That said, they used to throw the soy milk out as a nasty by product for making tofu, which traditionally isn't really eaten either. There's a whole page on it here: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html
I used to eat a lot of soy, mostly tofu. Then I lived in Japan for a while and found that they don't actually eat it like that - they focus on fermented versions of soy, which turn out to be the healthy versions. I found that I feel a lot better without all the tofu and stuff in my diet. I don't think that eating tofu or soy milk periodically will kill you, but I know that my PMS is soooo much better off without it. :)

[Kitty]

At whole foods today I looked at prices:

Organic soy milk is $1.50 for 32 oz.
Organic milk is $3.50 for 64 oz.

So, they're actually comprable (milk being slightly more).

[AshleyJordan]

At whole foods today I looked at prices:

Organic soy milk is $1.50 for 32 oz.
Organic milk is $3.50 for 64 oz.

So, they're actually comprable (milk being slightly more).

I just paid three bucks for 32 oz of soy milk in Brooklyn, and it was the cheapest one in the store! I know from my one visit there that the Bay area can be expensive, but it really feels like us New Yorkers pay more for everything! :evil:

[Kitty]

I just paid three bucks for 32 oz of soy milk in Brooklyn, and it was the cheapest one in the store! I know from my one visit there that the Bay area can be expensive, but it really feels like us New Yorkers pay more for everything! :evil:

Where did you buy the soy milk, though? If I were to buy it at Safeway or something I'm sure it would be more. But whole foods has their own organic brand and it's a lot cheaper. Half of an entire isle in that store is alternative-milk products.

[AshleyJordan]

At the local supermarket, which had about four varieties of soy milk. Generally the Wholefoods 365 brand is fairly affordable, but it's far from my house and I try to avoid lugging groceries on the subway or taking a cab (any other New Yorkers know what I mean?) as much as possible.

[Kitty]

That's why I think the whole argument that whole foods is a lot more expensive than regular supermarkets isn't necessarily tru. IF you're buying healthy/organic/vegan/vegetarian type stuff from regular supermarkets you're paying a lot of money because those places consider the items to be "specialty" where as whole foods has their own brand of all that stuff, and it's really quite affordable.

[AshleyJordan]

I haven't found Whole Foods to be any more expensive for me, personally, just a little less convenient.
Their food is also much better quality than what's available at the local grocery stores.

[Kitty]

I live within walking distance of 5 different supermarkets (whole foods, TJs, albertsons, safeway, and european-style market). They're all in the same block...not sure what's up with that.

[wordsmith]

I live 50 miles from the nearest specialty store (i.e. I wouldn't have any choice but to go by regular grocery prices).

[AshleyJordan]

But Words, do you have access to locally grown food? I feel like a bit of a tool for paying through the nose for organic vegetables like my family grows, for next to nothing, in Maine.:rolleyes:

[wordsmith]

Totally, but it doesn't extend to milk. I can get fresh, locally grown produce for next to nothing, and, in many cases, free. But not dairy. There is a local cattle industry, but it's beef cattle, not dairy.

[mishl982]

That's why I think the whole argument that whole foods is a lot more expensive than regular supermarkets isn't necessarily tru. IF you're buying healthy/organic/vegan/vegetarian type stuff from regular supermarkets you're paying a lot of money because those places consider the items to be "specialty" where as whole foods has their own brand of all that stuff, and it's really quite affordable.
Agreed. I've been shopping at Whole Foods a lot recently and it's actually not expensive. If I were getting the same products at the grocery store they they would be a bit pricier.

It also helps that it's right across from work and within walking (and running :huge: ) distance from home.