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PenforPrez
03-04-2007, 10:02 PM
I've been urged by a lot of people to go back to school. My universal reply to them has been: "Yeah, and take what?" Which is a dumb question, I realize, but I can't just spend $50k on it without some sort of plan.

A good friend of mine who knows far more than I do about these things was encouraging me yesterday to go back to school in a history capacity. He took a lot of history classes at a prestigious St. Louis college, and now he's about to get a law degree from another college in that category.

He knows the Civil War is my favorite historical period, and he felt I would find the fit I was looking for in going to his first school and working under a respected Civil War historian there. He felt, in all seriousness, that I would make a much better TA/protege than anybody else in the position currently, and that I would be much happier there.

His arguments were that, for one thing, I would need a masters for most historical positions at museums and such, which I already knew. Two, it gets me out of my current home situation (which I desperately need) and studying and allowing for a more gradual transition. Third, he said it would be a perfect fit for me and my needs. I don't doubt that.

My friend was all playing up how he knows this professor personally and could help nail a couple of influential recommendations. I could do the same thing myself, and I would, but every bit helps. ;)

I sat quietly and listened. Now, enter the loop of indecisiveness that seems to rule my life. I have two concerns here. One, I've talked myself out of grad school a couple of times already, including one time I do regret, but all in all was the right decision.

Two, I'm just not keen on writing and researching history right now. I'd REALLY have to have my shit together to be ready for grad school, and these days, I have enough trouble finding the energy to get out of bed. I'm not keen on it, but I'm not keen on anything else. I wonder sometimes if I'm not good at anything outside of the quiz bowl realm.

Nonetheless, it costs little to look into it, and my friend seemed insistent on seeing what he could do. With support like that, I'd offend if I didn't at least look at the situation.

Thoughts? :)

Paul

pisces2473
03-04-2007, 10:05 PM
If you aren't ready and don't have the discipline, don't go. It's a waste of everyone's time.

I've been there, that's the only reason I'm being so harsh. Also, if you're just going for an MA, you probably won't get much $$$. If you go for a PhD, you might get a full ride, but competition is fierce.

Good luck with your decision.

PenforPrez
03-04-2007, 10:20 PM
If you aren't ready and don't have the discipline, don't go. It's a waste of everyone's time.

I've been there, that's the only reason I'm being so harsh.

I didn't think you were being harsh. :) I've been of the same mindset for a long time.

and1grad
03-04-2007, 10:46 PM
What gets you up for the quiz bowl stuff? The reason you're not energetic is probably b/c you dont have much going on to be excited about. What if grad school provided that for you? Like you said, cant hurt to look.

PenforPrez
03-04-2007, 11:48 PM
What gets you up for the quiz bowl stuff?

I enjoy it, I'm good at it, and both have been true since I first picked up a buzzer in *1994*!

My friend and I were competitors for a long time, now we work together. I actually said to him during this conversation: "I sometimes wonder if all the quiz bowl stuff isn't holding me back."

"Is it fun for you?"
"Yes."
"Is it a money pit?"
"No."
"Then enjoy it."

That settled that. :)

The reason you're not energetic is probably b/c you dont have much going on to be excited about. What if grad school provided that for you? Like you said, cant hurt to look.

That's the other side of this equation, and I saw that too. I want an intellectual challenge, and this would well be it. It would be a reason to be excited to start a new day. But at a VERY high cost; this is a private school.

Paul

TinyDancer
03-05-2007, 12:21 AM
Did your undergraduate education motivate you? Did you like school?

Maybe right now you don't have a lot to motivate you to want to get out of bed. . . but could this be the ticket?

I don't know if this is the answer, but I think you should at least look into it. Talk to professors, check out programs. . . You've got nothing to lose in doing that, right?

PenforPrez
03-05-2007, 01:05 AM
Did your undergraduate education motivate you? Did you like school?

The thing about my undergrad study was that it gave me a jolt of reality that I had never had, and most people do by that age. Think electroshock therapy, and you get the idea of what I experienced.

I liked college, but I never was able to fully experience it. Next time, I would be able to, and I would. :)

Maybe right now you don't have a lot to motivate you to want to get out of bed. . . but could this be the ticket?

I don't know if this is the answer, but I think you should at least look into it. Talk to professors, check out programs. . . You've got nothing to lose in doing that, right?

I've looked at grad school programs before, but I just never felt 100% sure; I likely doubt I ever will feel that way. I agree, nothing wrong in taking a look. :)

Paul

beeblebrox
03-05-2007, 01:23 AM
As someone who has a master's in history, it's much different than the history in undergrad. It's extremely intense and doesn't necessarily rely on solely knowing facts, but knowing how to analyze, understand, and comprehend those facts. For me, it taught me a new way to analyze history.

Also, if you're looking into working in a museum environment, there are specialized master's degrees that you can earn. Mine is in public history. In the future, I hope to earn an MLS.

allie1105
03-05-2007, 08:53 AM
I would look into it a little further. You might find a program that fits your needs and excites you!

Also, there IS an option to look into for $$ - I am a graduate assistant, and my school paid for 9 credits this semester (I'm taking 12, so I had to pay for 3), and gave me a $1200 stipend. I'm supposed to do 10 hours of work per week, but the professor I work with is so cool - I do a lot of research for her, so I can do it from home.

I go to a state school, but I almost went to private school, and this option was available there. I can be a graduate assistant for 2 semesters, and since I am FT, my program will only take me 3 semesters. Its worth checking into!

CityGal
03-05-2007, 09:34 AM
I agree with everyone. At least look into it. Nothing lost if you do. Can you audit a class for a day or two? Maybe that could make or break your decision.
Def. don't do it if you don't have your heart into it. It is a lot of money to waste.

WorkInProgress
03-05-2007, 09:49 AM
I agree with most everyone here (and you) about this. It is a lot of money if you aren't sure, but if the investigation costs little/nothing, why not pursue it and make an educated decision? I do think, though, that you need to have a plan for what you're going to do (and how you intend to go about doing it) afterwards before you being your studies.

PenforPrez
03-05-2007, 12:21 PM
I do think, though, that you need to have a plan for what you're going to do (and how you intend to go about doing it) afterwards before you being your studies.

That's the part that worries me. Every plan I try has some glaring error I never noticed that causes it to fail. Either that, or I just cannot muster the energy to persist. Being constantly exhausted sucks. :torn:

Paul