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leoncour
10-16-2004, 05:32 PM
In a time when the biggest issues are whether John Kerry served in Vietnam dishonorably or Bush snorted crack at camp David, I found Jon Stewart's appearence on Crossfire pretty refreshing.


To see the video:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200410160003



Jon Stewart Bitchslaps CNN's 'Crossfire' Show
10.15.2004 6:43 PM EDT

In what could well be the strangest and most refreshing media moment of the election season, "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart turned up on a live broadcast of CNN's "Crossfire" Friday and accused the mainstream media — and his hosts in particular — of being soft and failing to do their duty as journalists to keep politicians and the political process honest.

Reaching well outside his usual youthful "Daily Show" demo, Stewart took to "Crossfire" to promote his new book, "America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction" (see "Jon Stewart Writes A History Textbook That — At Last! — Features Nudity"), but instead of pushing the tome, Stewart used his time to verbally slap the network and the media for being "dishonest" and "doing a disservice" to the American public. After co-host Tucker Carlson suggested that Stewart went easy on Senator John Kerry when the candidate was a guest on "The Daily Show," Stewart unloaded on "Crossfire," calling hosts Carlson and Paul Begala "partisan hacks" and chiding them for not raising the level of discourse on their show beyond sloganeering.

"What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery," Stewart said. "You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.

"I watch your show every day, and it kills me. It's so painful to watch," Stewart added as it became apparent that the comedian was not joking. He went on to hammer the network, and the media in general, for its coverage of the presidential debates. Stewart said it was a disservice to viewers to immediately seek reaction from campaign insiders and presidential cheerleaders following the debates, noting that the debates' famed "Spin Alley" should be called "Deception Lane."

"The thing is, we need your help," Stewart said. "Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations and we're left out there to mow our lawns."

While the audience seemed to be behind Stewart, Begala and Carlson were both taken aback. The hosts tried to feed Stewart set-up lines hoping to draw him into a more light-hearted shtick, but Stewart stayed on point and hammered away at the show, the hosts, and the state of political journalism. Carlson grew increasingly frustrated, at first noting that the segment wasn't "funny," and later verbally sparring with the comedian.

"You're not very much fun," Carlson said. "Do you like lecture people like this, or do you come over to their house and sit and lecture them; they're not doing the right thing, that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?"

"If I think they are," Stewart retorted.

The conversation reached its most heated moment when Carlson said to Stewart, "I do think you're more fun on your show," to which Stewart replied, "You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."

"That went great," Stewart could be heard sarcastically saying as the show went off the air (a transcript of the show is available on CNN.com).

In an era when the media is increasingly fragmented and viewers can surround themselves with programming that falls right in line with their own views, be they on the right or the left, Stewart's blast seemed especially on point. It seems fitting that the tirade came on a day when much of the media attention focused on the presidential race was directed at the mention of Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter during the last presidential debate, as opposed to the issues addressed at that debate.

—Robert Mancini

Benwa
10-17-2004, 09:27 AM
Damn I wish I would have seen that. I stopped watching crossfire long ago for those reasons he stated. The longer Stewart is on, the more I'm impressed with him. There is truth to the idea the court jester is more able to tell the truth than the kings advisors. Wrapping it in humor makes it easier to take.

wordsmith
10-17-2004, 12:28 PM
Jon Stewart needs to marry me.

cheshrcarol
10-17-2004, 01:12 PM
That video was awesome. I can't believe he totally called them out like that. Go Jon Stewart!

maxwell78
10-17-2004, 02:06 PM
Wow. Jon Stewart is such a stud.

I used to absolutely love Crossfire. It was so much better back in the day when they just had the black curtain and a desk in a tiny little studio.

And the hosts of the show were quite as partisan as Begala and Carlson are now. I mean, I couldn't stand Bill Press or Michael Kinsely because I disagreed with them on pretty much everything, but I still respected them. Begala, Carville, Novak, and Carlson are just hacks.

personalegend
10-17-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by wordsmith
Jon Stewart needs to marry me.

We can fight for him!!

This guy is definately one of the smartest on television. damn his wife!

leoncour
10-17-2004, 11:11 PM
Whats interesting is that no political polling takes into account the part of the electorate which solely uses cell phones.

What age demographic mostly uses cell phones?

Young adults, around 16-24 year olds.

Where do young adults usually get their news information from?

The Daily Show!

maxwell78
10-17-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by leoncour
Whats interesting is that no political polling takes into account the part of the electorate which solely uses cell phones.

What age demographic mostly uses cell phones?

Young adults, around 16-24 year olds.


I don't mind voting in stealth ninja mode. :D

dietzy
10-18-2004, 09:04 AM
So why has John Stewart lost over 1 million viewers and his viewing audience is down 7%? Since announcing his support for Kerry this has happened. His show is in a tail spin.

wordsmith
10-18-2004, 09:08 AM
Naaaaah.

dietzy
10-18-2004, 09:23 AM
Naaaaah.

Losing a million viewers is not a tail spin? Sure sounds like it to me!

Benwa
10-18-2004, 09:37 AM
I don't watch the show religiously. But I've seen him jab at Kerry a few times. I get the impression he isn't really a supporter of Kerry, but rather opposes Bush. I feel he's disheartened by the whole political process, like so many of americans today. I'm sure if Kerry wins, the daily show will be more than happy to make fun of him.

I couldn't find any articles on his rating doing a quick google. Where did you hear they were down? I don't know, I did hear the Daily Show that covered the first debate was the highest ratings they ever had. I think people feel its imperative to be able to laugh at this situation. It just feels so grim and gray. And the people are so far removed from what happens in the political process that laughing at it helps it go down easier.

wordsmith
10-18-2004, 09:47 AM
Right...I actually haven't seen anything that indicates that his show's in trouble. Everything I've read about The Daily Show has it going strong. Various entertainment industry publications have done a LOT of features on him recently, usually an indication you're in okay shape.

gluegun
10-18-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by MetFanL


You mean since the show has been in repeats since the baseball playoffs started? And Monday Night Football? Come on... :rolleyes:

MetFan is exactly right. The Daily Show viewing audience has gone down by 7%. There is a direct correlation between that and the fact that the Daily Show has only been showing reruns.

leoncour
10-19-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by gluegun


MetFan is exactly right. The Daily Show viewing audience has gone down by 7%. There is a direct correlation between that and the fact that the Daily Show has only been showing reruns.

Interesting. I guess that goes to show you Dietzy, that if you get all of your information from the Drudge Report you come out hopelessly misinformed.